Difference between Made By Nokia and Made in Finland E61

Janice C

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hi, i noticed that when buying E61, Made in finland one is the way to go. What are the difference between the two? they do use same parts no? is the keypad the same? looking into getting one soon. Any feedback would be helpful.
thanks
 
Made in Finland is a must.. As you can see my phones!!

DURABILITY speaks for it..

Its like this.. You wouldn't buy pizza or pasta from a chinese restaurants right?

You would buy it from an Italian place..

Same with Nokia.. Nokia is in Finland so I like my Nokia phones made by finnish.

Also on other country they pay people cheap labor so you expect the same on the product even do if its Nokia!

So I trust the mainland company!
 
I personally haven't found a difference. Other than the 1337 factor in saying that your phone is made in Finland, there really isn't a difference. Some might even argue that Asian phones are manufactured better
 
Come on Boston Errol If I pay you a dollar to do my lawn would you give your best effort to do it?

What I mean is Cheap labor leads to cheap design products..

That's the difference!!

As for Finland the pay is fair but their watched by Nokia personnel strictly!

The big bosses are their too.
 
to be honest..only problems i ever saw of the made by nokia and made in finland

were the nokia 6270s....

other then that...i don't see any difference....as i've had a made by nokia e50 and a made in finland nokia e50 and they were the exact same quality in build ..firmware and same bug problems
 
ok...well i'm speaking from experience..

i've seen first hand of the bad nokia 6270s......but then i had a made in china one which was perfectly like a made in finland one...even later on found a made by nokia that had amazing build qulaity like finland ones

but now with all the new ones like n73 , n80 and even e50...they've been all the same quality
 
Trying to figure out if you are niave, prejudiced, or just plain biased.

Don't mix up cheap Asian designed and built knock offs with Western designed, subcontracted built products. The quality of electronic products assembled in Asia is second to none. Try travelling there and touring a plant before you make such statements based on hearsay.
The typical Asian worker in China, Malaysia, Philippines, etc., is very happy to have that job. And they know if they screw up, there are hundreds of other people waiting at the door for their chance. They work hard, and are proud of the product that leaves their factory.

Try opening your mind to the fact that we are in a global economy. The US and Europe can no longer sit back and think a the rest of the worlds factories are putting out inferior products
 
I agree, good point. Good example are Japanese cars vs. American cars but then again one has to realize that Japanese cars nowadays are manufactured in the U.S. even though they are still "japanese," yet they seem to exert the same level of quality.
 
oh btw most Japanese electronics are not made in Japan either even if they have made in Japan stamped on them. but the quality is still the same.
so made in Finland may not be made in Finland after all.

either way it is Nokia that goes and sets up the factories in these countries and the equipment as well. pretty much identical to their plants, so i'm not sure why you guys think the quality is different if the same machines are assembling them.

btw most Japanese cars are still made in Japan even if the sticker says made in the US. but the ones for the American market is designed in the US. they are fitted in the US cause it is sold as the L, S, SE, SR and and such whereas they have fewer trims in the country of origin.
 
Perhaps you should visit Marysville sometime before saying they aren't assembled in the US. They do use mostly Japanese manufactured parts, though.

Honda makes some models in Japan, like the S2000, while others, like the Civic and Accord (and their Acura counterparts) here in the US.
 
For the Japanese makes at least, the volume of the models that are assembled in the US far outstrips the volume of the models assembled in Japan. That's why they assemble them here. Parts can be easily containerized for shipping, while cars can't. The lower sales volume models they assemble over there because it doesn't cost so much to ship them over fully assembled.

And when I say assembly, I mean from the frame up, but as you pointed out, and I agreed in my original post, most of the parts are made in Japan. Not all ,though...at least on the Hondas, there's an annoying number of US made parts with imperial measure nuts and bolts, while the vast majority are made in Japan and use metric attachment hardware.
 
Okay, I'm reviving an oldish thread to try to establish a definitive answer to this whole "Made in Finland" vs "Made By Nokia/Not Made in Finland" question.

I've seen countless discussions where people link this distinction to build quality, and what I'd like to know is: has there ever actually been anything, any kind of evidence or observation, that actually indicated a difference in quality/reliability between models manufacutred in Finland vs those made elsewhere? Or is it all just speculative assumptions and conjecture by people ruminating on the matter idly?

Has anyone who works at a repair place seen a slew of non-Finland models coming in to be fixed, compared to a relative minority of Finnish ones? Has anyone held both types in their hands simultaneously and observed a noticable solidity-vs-ricketyness differentiation? Has anyone or their friends owned/used both kinds over substantial periods of time and personally witnessed first-hand more frequent malfunctions in one than the other?

Basically, is there any empirical substance at all to this issue, or is it all just a whole lto of groundless guesswork? I'm equally willing to entertain either possibility and have no pre-formed opinion one way or the other; I'd just like to know whether any actual research on the matter exists at all.

Thanks!
 
I don't agree on this. I have tried Made by Nokias & Finlands.. both had it's own flaw wrt to build. It doesn't matter where the phones are made off. If there is design flaw.. no matter where is it made.. it will be a bad one.

For example E61 build design was good, it didn't matter where it is made from. N73 is a example of bad build, even made in finland phone was creaky.

Take apple for example.. Their ipods are made in China. Are they bad build coz of the cheap labor??
 
Hmm... I dont have any solid evidence, but I always thought my E61 was built in China... it is solid, but isnt out of this world, its keyboard is nice but isnt better than any other E61 i've fiddled with and so forth... nonetheless, just out of curiosity I looked and it is made in finland.... I had a 3650 way back when that was really solid, very nice keyboard, everything really top notch and it was chinese made...

I think it boils down to design... the parts are the same, there really isnt much that could justify ANY solidity difference between a phone that is assembled by chinese ppl as opposed to finish ppl... there really isnt anything that the phone would carry that would give it a different characteristic based solely on what nationality the person that put the screws in was...

A more plausible explanation could be that occasionally (and I havent seen any indication of this on any recent models, although there was discussion a long time ago about this) nokia uses a different quality of materials when the phone goes into mass production in china, either due to some economy, or simply because a certain part is no longer available... This could explain different keyboard feel, etc... The ones built in finland use a different (perhaps better, perhaps worse) quality component, and when it goes into mass production they find a different substitute component...

It wouldnt make any difference if all of the components were exactly the same though...
 
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