i am glad that you know that you are better off with out that relationship, sometimes you cannot save relationships you must just move on no matter who they are with parents, children, spouses....it is very hard when it is your child though i think more parents need to be able to know when enough is enough, if he does not want to help himself there is nothing you can do and the only thing trying to help him would do is just make things hard for you so i am glas that you have come to that conclusion. i do think you should get some sort of counseling tough i mean there is only so much that just talking about it can do. you obviously are depressed by what is going on because he is your son and you love him and not only that but you say you have grandchildren so you can relate to what they may be going through and that makes it hurt too. it is so hard when someone you love is dong this to themselves and there is nothing that you can do to help them anymore. even for your grandchildren. do you have health anxiety or just anxiety. i mean i kno for me it is coming out as health anxiety and i have kind of thought that it is because my dad doesnt really do much to keep his health in order and i do everything i can to make sure nothing is going wrong with mine because it is something i can control. it is amazing what we can be forced to suffer through because of our childhood. i know what made mine eve worse was when i needed my parents the most, i was 11 and just getting ready to go into puberty, my dad was drunk all the time and i caught my mom having an affair on him. i felt like i had nobody to go to at that pont. my dad was devastated and wanted nothing more than to be home but had he just quit drinking he and my mom would still be together, they are still in love with each other. i was so mad at mom for doing that to me that i just HATED her from then until i had my own child. i kept everything inside i never wanted to tell anyone what was going on with me because i already had something against me to fit in with people at school, my family didnt have as much money as everyone else so i just wanted to fit in. nobody ever knew what happened except for my closest friend who has stood by me through everything. as i grew older i can see the relationship was not healthy for my mom and not defending her but had she not done what she had done she probably wold have been unhealthy her whole life. se still has depression issues to this day and i believe that probably caused that. it is just so hard to see someone you love not be able to help themselves. it is just so hard and it is even harder when there is nobody that can relate....this site has helped so much t see that i am not alone! please just find somebody that can help you, maybe then you can help your grandchildren. just because you do not have a relationship with your sone does not mean that you can not have a relationship with your grandchildren, in fact they probably need you! that is who helped me get through what i needed to even though they dont even know that! they were always there and always constant there was no change. you have something to offer your granRABhildren as well, you know what they are going through so there is somthing there that can help both of you out!