Did You Know There's An OpenSource Alternative Client?

Using ipfilter.dat would require something to update it right? And speaking of which, P2PFire seems to be at the bottom of the list there. Doesn't seem to have been touched in years.
 
I would think that we'd know if a piece of proprietary torrent software was causing trouble for illeagle activities. I mean, considering the masses that use uTorrent, I'm sure any wrong step will explode with complaints on the internet.
 
anon-sbi said:
No - I think it's rather Polarbear's way of being tired of repeating the same.

But he's right - switch to the classic UI and Vuze is a very good BitTorrent client and nothing else. Meaning no search/entertainment crap.
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Regardless of switching to the classic UI, you still have to download all the crap. If they gave users two different clients, one complete Vuze and the Classic UI, then I'd put up the Classic is all and then maybe not considering really what's at stake here!

It's not about installing Vuze then shutting off what you don't need it, it's about not even going there in the first place and just having a bittorrent ONLY client and ones that don't support the corporate pigs too!

And like I said, regardless Vuze is still sleeping with the enemy by having all these options linked into proprietary crap, regardless of turning everything off and using just the classic UI, you're still supporting them, which to me is bad! EVIL! :angry:

The dumbest thing about Vuze is on one side, go out and download your illegal torrents, then on the other side, play with all your illegal warez on the proprietary side. OH what a total crock of crap. If Vuze want's to say hey this is our way of slapping them in the face, well fine, I personally think it's also called sleeping with them when you invite them into your bed, meaning the application. To me that's total BS SOFTWARE for doing that! See because in the software world you don't do something like this in the open-source scene, hack scene, pirate scene or any other type of scene that's about freedom and sharing.

THINK about it for one SEC ok! So you're going to be a warez pirate make your own program, are you really going to have M$ in it and support them? HELL NO! You'll use a Windows box to do your hacking from but you're aren't going to support them in your pirated software! Do you get it now? ;)

Vuze it's crap plain and simple for what they're supporting and any filesharing pirate worth anything knows it too and doesn't even play with something like this!

HERE READ THIS: (Here is a a bit of what I'm going on about!)
http://www.vuze.com/features/device

Drag and Drop to -----> iPAD

Now go READ this: (Also dig around defectivebydesign.org and check out more).
http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ipad

So here's our great software pirates Vuze supporting crap like Apple as an example, not to mention M$!

See regardless of what the intentions are, if you are really into this for filesharing and what it's really about then you don't even mention something like the iPad on your website and show any support for it and any other proprietary crap that tries to take away your rights or freedoms.

Proprietary is fine so long as you aren't trying to take control and take away and that is what companies like Apple and M$ do with a lot of their proprietary crap! This is the PROBLEM and why Vuze get's BIG THUMBS down for me.

Vuze are just wannabe pirates supporting the corporate pigs also attacking and stealing from you and throwing you in jail, oh GEE this isn't also related to the RIAA and MPAA? LMAO, what BS! And you telling me you can't see this? WOW talk about being blind to support something like VUZE!

By the way Polarbear, I'm not just posting this directly at you, or attacking you, this is just a general post for everyone, so don't take it personal! :)

THANKS
 
Reliable and light ipfilter for uTorrent:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ed2k-ipfilterx/files/

You have to update it, yes. Doing it once a week should suffice. There's even an app that will do it with just a couple of clicks.

And speaking of which, P2PFire seems to be at the bottom of the list there. Doesn't seem to have been touched in years.
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It indeed hasn't been updated for ages, but it outranks PeerGuardian code if your OS can run it. Unlike PG, P2PF blocks connections, and not traffic. Meaning your connection won't be slowed down if you haven't applied the max. half-open TCPIP.SYS patch. Furthermore, it's been coded to use an extremely low amount of resources.
 
Do I have to download those files everytime I want to update, or what's this program that does it in a couple of clicks?

And are the lists for P2PF updated frequently?
 
You're right about the Apple part. Apple tracks all filesharing traffic on their computers. Every movie on a Mac or an iPad not bought in the iTunes store will automatically be reported. It sends all information directly to Apple.

I once used Vuze on a Mac to download some porn. Apple reported the illegal downloads to my local authorities. They busted my house and took away my Mac. Apple's anti piracy hunters cost me 10,000€ which the porn company claimed.

Now I use Windows and uTorrent like everyone else. I have a Levono or something now. I feel much safer. And it looks much better than the Apple anti-piratebooks.

I totally agree with you. True pirates don't use Macs or buy iPads.

I hope Steve Jobs dies pretty soon. He's evil and could take down all trackers at once. He's also related to a chief forensic expert at BREIN who took down 193 of the 384 trackers in the last six months. I heard it's his cousin.

In a few hours Jobs is giving a press conference. He'll announce that Apple will work together with the CIA in the near future to enforce a stricter DRM system on Apple hardware.
 
Detale said:
Sure open source is great, I'm all for it. But for the average user who knows fuck all about code (including myself) how the hell should we know what we are looking at and if it's secure or not? As I said nothing is 100% secure I mean look at that russian kid who broke cell phone encryption in like 15 min. You want to know what is 100% secure.... Don't download illegal content, thats safe :)
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I was about to make that point :P Some of us don't know jack about source code, or how to interpret it. That would then mean we'd have to rely on the "word" of others, which would pretty much defeat the purpose of going OS in the first place.

And why would the big bad companies use so many resources to get the peers? They should be (and are) going after the people who release the stuff, if they want to spend their resources appropriately. But as the saying goes, fly under the radar.

And security? The safest computer is one that doesn't work :P
 
GCI said:
I would think that we'd know if a piece of proprietary torrent software was causing trouble for illeagle activities. I mean, considering the masses that use uTorrent, I'm sure any wrong step will explode with complaints on the internet.
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Don't be so sure, people could be quietly getting busted and you'll never know.

Like I said, the TRUTH is, when it's proprietary you don't know what's going on behind your back and that's a FACT!
 
The general idea behind open source in these matters is that if someone puts harmful code in the program, a user that actually has the talent will make it known.

Personally I think it's a load of bollocks and a bit counter-intuitive to the business model of each respective company to start prosecuting their customers, but hey... common sense has never been the strong suit of many in the bt world.
 
i just sent request for torrent streaming for qBittorrent, i hope they add such support so i can leave utorrent forever.
 
ca_aok said:
Because I'm sure the average windows/mac user is compiling Az from source :rolleyes:
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The average user doesn't have to compile anything. As I mentioned before the Vuze crap can be simply turned off which leaves you with the same result. None of the Vuze interface code will be loaded at all.

I'm sick and tired of people complaining about Vuze when the existing Azureus core doesn't have any dependencies on the Vuze UI at all.

Don't like the changes from Azureus to Vuze? Easy solution: Do not use it! Choose the classic UI. It's optional.

It's ironic that the fact that Vuze is open source is also the reason that it's banned on some trackers. It makes it easier for cheaters to develop modified versions.
 
ca_aok said:
Personally I think it's a load of bollocks and a bit counter-intuitive to the business model of each respective company to start prosecuting their customers, but hey... common sense has never been the strong suit of many in the bt world.
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Has there actually been a case like that? I've heard rumors. But only rumors.
 
Polarbear said:
The client software is open source. The Vuze platform crap can be simply turned off. If you use Vuze in classic mode you have a 100% open source software.
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My understanding is the core is GPL and the platform is proprietary.

It's my further understanding that to install Vuze you have to install the core and platform, but as you mention you can turn the platform off. Well just because you turn something off doesn't mean that license changes, you're still installing proprietary software in your system.

Now can you install Vuze without the platform, if you can, then we're now talking about something. ;)

What I'm talking about is 100% open-source, not a combination of with proprietary crap.

By the way you keep going on about Azureus, it's no longer Azureus, it's called ---> VUZE. :)

Look at their website:

-----> Azureus - now called Vuze - Bittorrent Client :whistling



ca_aok said:
To be fair, they tell you they turn everything off. As it's partially closed source, it's up to you to believe it.

Personally, I prefer rtorrent, which is one of the options you seemed to miss (though I have heard good things about Deluge).
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Well I didn't come out and say it, I just made it a Windows post for Windows GUI clients mainly, even though I use Linux, LOL...

In the Windows world you aren't going to find to many users, using a text based client, it's typically GUI in the Windows world, that's why I didn't mention rtorrent. If we were talking Linux that would be one to add.

Heck I'm even a Slack user, running only OpenBox, but I'll take a nice small GUI app over text for torrents. ;)


Detale said:
Honestly though, I think this is a bit much. I get it, the big bad companies are out to get us. The truth of it all is simple, if "they" want to get, you they WILL get you. All the security in the world really doesn't help much if you pop up on the radar. We play the odds really. odds are they won't get us. I read somewhere that the odds of getting caught downloading illegal stuff is about half of that when getting struck by lightning. So the odds are in our favor but hey any one of us could get caught.

Sure open source is great, I'm all for it. But for the average user who knows fuck all about code (including myself) how the hell should we know what we are looking at and if it's secure or not? As I said nothing is 100% secure I mean look at that russian kid who broke cell phone encryption in like 15 min. You want to know what is 100% secure.... Don't download illegal content, thats safe :)
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You're missing the point! ---> DON'T STAND OUT IN THE OPEN SO MUCH! :)

Don't be such sheep running out in the open using everything that everyone typically uses thinking you are safe.

You don't need to know what the heck open-source is and the code, because typically in most open-source projects there are going to be a lot of people who know the code. Now you could argue, well that gets down to who I trust, so what I'll say is don't be ridiculous and I don't mean to be rude, but no one in their right mind is going to put an exploit in open-source software and peddle it.


GCI said:
Detale said:
Sure open source is great, I'm all for it. But for the average user who knows fuck all about code (including myself) how the hell should we know what we are looking at and if it's secure or not? As I said nothing is 100% secure I mean look at that russian kid who broke cell phone encryption in like 15 min. You want to know what is 100% secure.... Don't download illegal content, thats safe :)
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I was about to make that point :P Some of us don't know jack about source code, or how to interpret it. That would then mean we'd have to rely on the "word" of others, which would pretty much defeat the purpose of going OS in the first place.

And why would the big bad companies use so many resources to get the peers? They should be (and are) going after the people who release the stuff, if they want to spend their resources appropriately. But as the saying goes, fly under the radar.

And security? The safest computer is one that doesn't work :P
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Read what I said above to Detale, it's foolish to think someone is going to release open code to a community and have a security breach in it that affects your safety, it's never going to happen and if it does the open-source community will find it in a FLASH!
 
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