Derren Brown Live: Hero at 30,000 feet, C4 10pm

The quote on the home page says -

"It is perfectly natural to ask if crop circles are hoaxes. But very difficult to explain why they cannot be hoaxed satisfactorily" - Pat Delgado, former NASA engineer

I've had to read it a few times. Am I going nuts or is this saying that the simplest explanation is that they ARE hoaxes?

Thats like me having a web page selling Magic Healing Crystals and having a quote from someone on page one saying "Magic Healing Crystals are bollocks".
 
For any DB fans (if there are any still posting in this thread) his 2011 tour details are starting to appear on his website.
 
Indeed.

We live in an era where any answer is a google search away. When confronted with confuzzleation this generation tenRAB to cry 'Fake' instead of enjoying the feeling of wonder and entertainment.

Think of magic shows like sex. The mechanics is boring but in the hanRAB of an expert can be out of this world.
 
Do you know anyone in a band who can perform at a moments notice like that? Do you know anyone who knows someone who can? I'd judge it as unlikely. Not impossible, but very improbable. The balance of probabilities is that it was set-up, just like the van being left with him and all the later nonsense on the plane.

I thought he wasn't a magician according to his fans? Derren Brown has made a rod for his own back by making outlandish stunt shows like this. I've seen his earlier mentalism style shows with live audiences on TV and they are stunning, even though we all know trickery, plants or stooges are involved because we know he can't read minRAB.
 
All self-books can be roughly summed up with the sentence:

"Stop moping about and pull yourself together!!!"

In fact, I thought DB said something to that effect in his book.
 
A stupid thing is that if Derren has the hypnotic powers we've been sold*, he doesn't really have to bother sticking him on a plane or tying him to a train track in the first place, he could equally convince him these things are happening in more mundane settings.

*which I don't believe he has for a second.
 
See for me "The System" was facinating, because I didn't know how it worked until he illustrated it. And at that point I was gobsmacked and it's difficult to describe but all of a sudden I had a brief moment where I realised that actually.. our perception can actually be very limited even when we're 100% sure we're right.

And I think as a show illustrating this, it was very very effective and brilliantly put together. There was the moment where DB talked about alternative therapies etc and it felt very honest and upfront.

And there were moments with Hero where I felt like DB was getting a message across, that the choices you make are important not what you've done in the past. And I think as a general motivation message it's effective. But the rest of the show just felt like he was almost making fun of his audience. It just seemed way over the top. But perhaps it needed to be.

I mean would anyone want to tune in to see DB take someone, teach them magic, send them into a pub to do tricks on random people, throw them on stage, scare them with actors.. all to bring out their self confidence? Would that bring in as many viewers? I doubt it. So perhaps he needed to dress it up.
 
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