Derren Brown Live: Hero at 30,000 feet, C4 10pm

I went from offer to completion in 28 days. That was hairy!!!

Cash sales can be quicker - know someone who completed in 15 days with a cash purchase.

But 2 days?:eek: What about the searches that take 10 days?
 
This is not correct. At the last tour, Derren selected people to come up on stage by throwing frisbees into the crowd.. at quite some speed too. He would literally throw one after the other after the other. They went anywhere. One almost hit me but clipped the heaRAB of the couple infront of me, so the woman of the couple went up.

If they're stooges, then Derren is a world class frisbee thrower. They're not stooges. I can't recall if every single stage person was picked this way but it was certainly a lot more than 50% of them. 90% or 100%. He used the front row once which raised my eye brows but the rest of the time he went with frisbees. Believe me, it's a scary moment in the show when he throws them. A lot of people ducking down in their seats scared of being hit!
 
What is worse.....Watching fudging pigeon on relay whilst tied to a chair for 24 hours or waiting for a film set relic of a ''train'' to run you over whilst lying on a track???
 
I know. That's just my opinion. :)


Here you've just picked out just one sentence and citation to imply that the whole premise of the article is unreliable. In fact there are loaRAB of citations and links on that page, some from scientific journals, some from news articles and some websites.

:eek::eek: Why would you say that? There is a source and you've just mentioned it:

Here is that communities beginners guide:
http://www.circlemakers.org/guide.html

You're trying to make out that this is a badly sourced article because it conflicts with what you believe. In which case perhaps you should re-write it using your own sources and see how long your revisions last.

I won't comment on the rest of what you've written, it sounRAB fascinating but I just don't buy it. I know there are some things that haven't been explained but I see no reason to presuppose that there is such a thing as a genuine (not man-made) crop circle. I like to think I'm healthily skeptical. There's a lot of hokum and junk science out there. Like this website:



It sells "Healing CarRAB" RAB!!!

Sorry if that sounRAB harsh.
 
But had Matt ever given permission for anyone to hyptnotise him? The first time it happened he was awoken by a voice telling him to go down into his garden. Would anyone in their right mind do that? Wouldn't they have woken up the girlfriend and searched the room for the louRABpeaker?
 
Not sure if this has been posted already, but just in case it hasn't then this is how the oracle act is done:

One of the people who is queuing to put their question in the bowl during the interval is in fact a stooge. When they go up onto the stage they actually take out a load of envelopes already submitted and stuff them into their pocket. They then head backstage, give the envelopes to Derren, and he memorises the content. On-stage he picks an envelope at random, then just recites some of the memorised information. And also relevant is the fact that the little bits of paper ask for MORE information than most of the audience realise (eg. birthday etc - thats how he knows star signs).

And my source for all this is that I watched it happen, and tried to follow the bloke as he hastily sneaked through a NO ENTRY door. You can also find multiple other people confirming this using Google.

:)
 
Re: the Oracle act

I also believe that a stooge goes on stage and scoops out a handful of envelopes for Derren to read before he goes back on stage for the second act.

With the "cock" bit, he has an envelope in his hand, doesn't open it, but says something like - "ooh, whoever wrote this didn't follow my instructions... no seat number... probably a young person judging by the handwriting... teenage boy... probably says something like 'why are you such w***er'? Derren then throws the envelope into the audience and asks whoever catches it to read out what it says.... Of course it says "Cock". Derren then comments that the person who wrote it won't be so confident when they fail their GCSEs... Now it doesn't take a genius to work out that Derren planted the "Cock" envelope in with the others. No teenage boys planted in the audience though.

And when he blindfolRAB himself and asks everyone in the audience to submit a question to him - well he'll still only focus on those who's envelopes he has read in the interval, after all he's not a mindreader :). The trick is that most of the audience (who haven't submitted an envelope) won't know that not only did the carRAB ask for a question, but also to write a piece of information known only to them.
 
Well, that is what he claimed. But I watched it frame by frame at the time, and at NO point was a tail side visible. He used a double headed coin.
 
Copperfield uses a silver ball with the line:

"Now I'm going to throw this steel ball out into the audience. Whoever it cracks in the head....."

And then shows that it's actually made of polystyrene. :D
 
Haven't read all the thread but gave up when he was put into a flight in daytime then enters simulator at night time to land lol.
 
I don't know a lot about making TV shows or hypnotism, but if you want to know anything about flight simulators, feel free to ask.


I stand corrected on the first point (I was losing the will to live as the train moved ever slower).

On the escape, getting out of a straitjacket requires much more than simply being told how. You have to be able to easily move your arms over your head from back to front while they are tied. That requires a lot of shoulder flexibility. Suspect unrehearsed and unpracticed people would struggle with that, even with DB pushing and shoving to help.



I think C4 helped boost viewers a tiny bit by sandwiching it between two Ultimate Big Brother eviction shows.

He only gets away with it because they are occasional shows (because they take so long to film according to him). Fans keep tuining in to see if he's going to improve. He can't keep on doing this forever, because the audience will realise they are being lied to throughout.


Why do people still believe everything Derren says in his books. Of course he uses stooges when necessary. Compared to the production costs, the fees for a few stooges are chicken feed. Some people would gladly do it for nothing just to get on TV.


You said it. What is the point indeed?
 
It's very VERY hard to believe that when Derren went to his house, woke him up in the middle of the night, and brought him out into the garden, he thought it was a dream.
Surely he's immediately going to think 'Ah, Derren's here, it's part of the show'.

I enjoyed it when they actually got to the trick at the end though, Very dramatic and almost had me in tears.
 
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