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)if you stop the celexa cold turkey you'll go nuts: uncomfortable, insomniac, constantly crying then laughing, etc.
it's fucking insane. you should ask your doctor to wean you from it.
SSRIs are not even totally understood, yet everyone who complains about low self esteem is aksed to buy them and take them like candy.
think about how the system is treating you.
~ dan ~
it's fucking insane. you should ask your doctor to wean you from it.
SSRIs are not even totally understood, yet everyone who complains about low self esteem is aksed to buy them and take them like candy.
think about how the system is treating you.
~ dan ~
phedrekushiel
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Just remember that if you ever think of hurting yourself. You are hurting ALL your family and friends even the one's who are not always there when you need them.
Get on Risperdal. I need that shit, or else I totally get stressed out. It helps me sleep too, due to the ADHD.
It's not too strong, and not too weak, so it would not totally fuck you over.
Morelos, you seem to be anti-pill. How can anyone think like that? The "system" is to make people better, not to allow pharm companies to make more money. I feel that those drug commercials are there to let you know what is new and innovative on the market. Sure, they say "Ask your doctor," but in reality, if we did not know what was out there, we would still be taking aspirin. They do try to give you information on their drug, hoping you will try it. Hell, I ask my psychiatrist about what drugs I want to be on...I am well informed. I'm aiming to get on Cylert, as Dexadrine. Adderall, and Strattera seem to not be helping me too much with my ADD. It sucks...I got my hopes really high for Strattera, too. I was hoping it would be able to give me twenty four hour relief, but alas, it barely gave me any relief at all.
So in short...if you need pills to be happy, take 'em. No more of this "ADD is a ploy to get pharm companies to sell stimulants" bullshit, Morelos. I have heard many people say that, and until you are diagnosed with AD/HD, you may even believe that. It IS a real disorder, I know that my brain works very differently from a normal person's.
It's not too strong, and not too weak, so it would not totally fuck you over.
Morelos, you seem to be anti-pill. How can anyone think like that? The "system" is to make people better, not to allow pharm companies to make more money. I feel that those drug commercials are there to let you know what is new and innovative on the market. Sure, they say "Ask your doctor," but in reality, if we did not know what was out there, we would still be taking aspirin. They do try to give you information on their drug, hoping you will try it. Hell, I ask my psychiatrist about what drugs I want to be on...I am well informed. I'm aiming to get on Cylert, as Dexadrine. Adderall, and Strattera seem to not be helping me too much with my ADD. It sucks...I got my hopes really high for Strattera, too. I was hoping it would be able to give me twenty four hour relief, but alas, it barely gave me any relief at all.
So in short...if you need pills to be happy, take 'em. No more of this "ADD is a ploy to get pharm companies to sell stimulants" bullshit, Morelos. I have heard many people say that, and until you are diagnosed with AD/HD, you may even believe that. It IS a real disorder, I know that my brain works very differently from a normal person's.
1) i was diagnosed with attention deficit disorder (not the hyperactivity variant)
2) i was never prescribed anything and i never went to therapy.
3) i am a perfectly functional member of society today.
4) you are what, almost 16? don't you DARE tell me anything is real; you probably don't do much reflection as it is, and turning to pills and jumping on a claim that a disorder IS REAL is pretty retarded.
5) i don't mean to sound rude, but the bottom line is this: what happens the day you stop taking those pills and the world DOESN'T stop spinning accordingly? will you assume you've been 'cured' somehow? what you're doing is psychologically assigning yourself a 'condition' and deciding that a particular medical path is the 'cure.' while i strongly advocate the use of medicine to alleviate short-term issues (breakdown? take xanax; killer cramps? take vicodin, etc.), i know from first-hand experience that EVEN IF any of these new (and STRANGELY, ALMOST ONLY FOUND IN AMERICA) disorders are "real," they are mis-, but more importantly, over-diagnosed and over-medicated.
6) go to france and ask any pharmacist about anti-depressants. they'll call you an american and giggle. that the rest of the world doesn't suffer depression is funny as fuck.
yes, your brain works differently than others.
is it abnormal? no. do you want to cure it? sure. ADAPT BY LEARNING HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM -AND- WITHIN YOUR OWN SET OF NORMS.
fuck, the problem here is that we're all being taught not to think.
god bless the reverend MTV.
~ dan ~
2) i was never prescribed anything and i never went to therapy.
3) i am a perfectly functional member of society today.
4) you are what, almost 16? don't you DARE tell me anything is real; you probably don't do much reflection as it is, and turning to pills and jumping on a claim that a disorder IS REAL is pretty retarded.
5) i don't mean to sound rude, but the bottom line is this: what happens the day you stop taking those pills and the world DOESN'T stop spinning accordingly? will you assume you've been 'cured' somehow? what you're doing is psychologically assigning yourself a 'condition' and deciding that a particular medical path is the 'cure.' while i strongly advocate the use of medicine to alleviate short-term issues (breakdown? take xanax; killer cramps? take vicodin, etc.), i know from first-hand experience that EVEN IF any of these new (and STRANGELY, ALMOST ONLY FOUND IN AMERICA) disorders are "real," they are mis-, but more importantly, over-diagnosed and over-medicated.
6) go to france and ask any pharmacist about anti-depressants. they'll call you an american and giggle. that the rest of the world doesn't suffer depression is funny as fuck.
yes, your brain works differently than others.
is it abnormal? no. do you want to cure it? sure. ADAPT BY LEARNING HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM -AND- WITHIN YOUR OWN SET OF NORMS.
fuck, the problem here is that we're all being taught not to think.
god bless the reverend MTV.
~ dan ~
MOREOVER, i was diagnosed with "generalized anxiety disorder" and given a prescription for an SSRI known as fluoxetine (prozac).
six days of it gave me nauseating headaches and total insomnia.
they put me on paroxetine (paxil) instead. what did it do? it eliminated extremes of my moods. GASP. it made me better fit a 'social norm.' it also made me not give a shit about anyone. and quitting it was the worst hell i could ever imagine -- akin to quitting heroin, i would imagine (from my first-hand experience with other medications)
if you want to be rendered into normist, over-conformist cubicle meat, and voluntarily, you're way less bright than i originally took you to be.
what is 'real,' anyway? is pain "real?" pain is something your head tells you you have. how you interpret the pain signal is what matters to you and to the rest of the world. so you have trouble focusing your attention. you would probably be out hunting somewhere very successfully in primitive society, without your precious ritalin or whatever to help you along.
you have clearly not yet analyzed yourself or the world around you in an unbiased way. you can label anyone with an 'abnormality' as long as you tighten the norms enough to exclude them.
~ dan ~
six days of it gave me nauseating headaches and total insomnia.
they put me on paroxetine (paxil) instead. what did it do? it eliminated extremes of my moods. GASP. it made me better fit a 'social norm.' it also made me not give a shit about anyone. and quitting it was the worst hell i could ever imagine -- akin to quitting heroin, i would imagine (from my first-hand experience with other medications)
if you want to be rendered into normist, over-conformist cubicle meat, and voluntarily, you're way less bright than i originally took you to be.
what is 'real,' anyway? is pain "real?" pain is something your head tells you you have. how you interpret the pain signal is what matters to you and to the rest of the world. so you have trouble focusing your attention. you would probably be out hunting somewhere very successfully in primitive society, without your precious ritalin or whatever to help you along.
you have clearly not yet analyzed yourself or the world around you in an unbiased way. you can label anyone with an 'abnormality' as long as you tighten the norms enough to exclude them.
~ dan ~
bearfox_traders
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If I stopped taking my pills...I could function very well. I just would not function as well as I do now.
I agree with you 100% that these disorders are over-diagnosed...I was syaing that if you need pills to live your life without being fucked up, by all means take them.
As to your quote about me going on 16...and how I don't know what is real...That is true. I don't know as much as an adult, but I'm a pretty damn advanced almost-16 year old. I would NEVER jump to pills, unless I needed them. I have been REALLY messed up from Zonegran, Zyrtec, and Geodon. Those three pills made me go psycho, and after having those experiences, I no longer just jump on a new medication unless I truly need it. I also forgot to mention that I reflect on life all the time, and I don't just sit there like a zombie, such as a "normal" 15 year old does. Also, I loathe MTV. I don't feel they have had ONE good show in the last four years besides Jackass. They completely create the teen stereotype, which I hate to no end.
I am now bashing myself in the stomach from writing that you were anti-medicine, it seems I forgot about all your pro-science posts. I admit that I was wrong, and that I never should have said that. I retract my statement.
There, now can we make up and just forget this ever happened?
I agree with you 100% that these disorders are over-diagnosed...I was syaing that if you need pills to live your life without being fucked up, by all means take them.
As to your quote about me going on 16...and how I don't know what is real...That is true. I don't know as much as an adult, but I'm a pretty damn advanced almost-16 year old. I would NEVER jump to pills, unless I needed them. I have been REALLY messed up from Zonegran, Zyrtec, and Geodon. Those three pills made me go psycho, and after having those experiences, I no longer just jump on a new medication unless I truly need it. I also forgot to mention that I reflect on life all the time, and I don't just sit there like a zombie, such as a "normal" 15 year old does. Also, I loathe MTV. I don't feel they have had ONE good show in the last four years besides Jackass. They completely create the teen stereotype, which I hate to no end.
I am now bashing myself in the stomach from writing that you were anti-medicine, it seems I forgot about all your pro-science posts. I admit that I was wrong, and that I never should have said that. I retract my statement.
There, now can we make up and just forget this ever happened?
then why not stop taking them and learn? you're young enough to where you can still easily adapt. believe me on this: the older you get, the more that daftness escapes you.
well, sure. but honestly, the human being is a well-put-together package and it's even more rare to see a real brain malformation/malfunction than it is to see a real physical malformation/malfunction. and honestly, you don't see that many weird ass physical deformations which aren't the result of drugged mothers anyway.
now, the reason i make this claim is that the brain is known to calibrate itself to the body. why do you think you're not born a completely able-bodied person when you're little? your brain has all these sensors and is trying to figure out how to organize and cope with all the input. why do you think practicing anything really DOES make you better? because your brain is rehearsing (calibrating itself to) the proper motions.
you're ON pills, yet you're certain you need them?
how did they make you "go psycho?" i'm actually really interested in this. if i could communicate to you my discomfort from weaning myself off paxil you'd understand how much i hate constant medication.
hahah... you must be this --> attractive to be on our network.
barf.
however, try something really healthy: start reflecting on HOW you reflect. like, after you have a thought process, analyze it. it's called metacognition -- being aware of, and thinking about, how we think. follow your logic chain from this to that, identify which personal memories might have helped your logic chain along vs. which factual knowledge helped your logic chain along. then figure out where you got that factual knowledge. it's amazing to do.
yeah, that was kind of an in-your-face one, but then you can always assume your ADHD medication isn't working as well as you thought and that your short-term attention span wasn't long enough to remember that Morelos was the one posting in favour of science and medicine earlier.
? =-]
i was unaware of any fight, and if i insulted you in some way i apologize. i just expect more out of the brighter ones, i guess
forget? no. forgetting invalidates everything you learn!
~ dan ~
well, sure. but honestly, the human being is a well-put-together package and it's even more rare to see a real brain malformation/malfunction than it is to see a real physical malformation/malfunction. and honestly, you don't see that many weird ass physical deformations which aren't the result of drugged mothers anyway.
now, the reason i make this claim is that the brain is known to calibrate itself to the body. why do you think you're not born a completely able-bodied person when you're little? your brain has all these sensors and is trying to figure out how to organize and cope with all the input. why do you think practicing anything really DOES make you better? because your brain is rehearsing (calibrating itself to) the proper motions.
you're ON pills, yet you're certain you need them?
how did they make you "go psycho?" i'm actually really interested in this. if i could communicate to you my discomfort from weaning myself off paxil you'd understand how much i hate constant medication.
hahah... you must be this --> attractive to be on our network.
barf.
however, try something really healthy: start reflecting on HOW you reflect. like, after you have a thought process, analyze it. it's called metacognition -- being aware of, and thinking about, how we think. follow your logic chain from this to that, identify which personal memories might have helped your logic chain along vs. which factual knowledge helped your logic chain along. then figure out where you got that factual knowledge. it's amazing to do.
yeah, that was kind of an in-your-face one, but then you can always assume your ADHD medication isn't working as well as you thought and that your short-term attention span wasn't long enough to remember that Morelos was the one posting in favour of science and medicine earlier.
? =-]
i was unaware of any fight, and if i insulted you in some way i apologize. i just expect more out of the brighter ones, i guess
forget? no. forgetting invalidates everything you learn!
~ dan ~
I was on pulmicort and singulair for my asthma
but then it got all expensive and I couldn't afford the doctor visits and prescriptions
so I took myself off of it...so about one or two weeks later of non-stop ass kicking asthma attacks, breathing problems, chestpains, and omg just the load of it til I was bout ready to give up and go back on it...it got better
it sucked at first cuz it really seemed like the medicine helped me, and it really hurt..i didn't have to walk more than a few yards to act up..sucked so bad
but then ur right., I adapted and learned my actions towards the asthma and got through it...now that it's all out of my system I'm not that bad anymore
although now I'm on Serevent, and may get Advair...plus I still have my inhaler...these work really really well..and it's good that you don't neccessarily have to take it all the time..so it's not addicting, and you don't worry about missing a day..I just take it when I know I might do something crazy..and it works 12 hours which is all I need
Singulair shouldn't be prescribed as allergy medicine, it helped my overall asthma, still did nothing at night though, and I constantly took other allergy medicines
but then it got all expensive and I couldn't afford the doctor visits and prescriptions
so I took myself off of it...so about one or two weeks later of non-stop ass kicking asthma attacks, breathing problems, chestpains, and omg just the load of it til I was bout ready to give up and go back on it...it got better
it sucked at first cuz it really seemed like the medicine helped me, and it really hurt..i didn't have to walk more than a few yards to act up..sucked so bad
but then ur right., I adapted and learned my actions towards the asthma and got through it...now that it's all out of my system I'm not that bad anymore
although now I'm on Serevent, and may get Advair...plus I still have my inhaler...these work really really well..and it's good that you don't neccessarily have to take it all the time..so it's not addicting, and you don't worry about missing a day..I just take it when I know I might do something crazy..and it works 12 hours which is all I need
Singulair shouldn't be prescribed as allergy medicine, it helped my overall asthma, still did nothing at night though, and I constantly took other allergy medicines
Well...Morelos...this is how I went psycho...
Zonegran: Happened in school. I was angry at everyone and everything, and incredibly hateful and delusional. I was nasty to my friends and everyone around me. I still have a rep that carries with me today from this shit.
Geodon: Made me totally delusional and angry. At Tech Camp, this Jamaican kid had to call his parents in Jamaica, and the medication made me so paranoid I watched over him because he was black...funny thing that even if he did steal it, it would be found. The camp was up at Vassar College, and the dorms are tiny and small and it would have been sure to be found. I did not even trust my newly made friends. When my mom shipped my 5" black and white TV and my Playstation to me, I kept everyone out of my dorm because I thought that they would try and steal it/use me to play it. I tried to convince my newly made friend that my views were always right, and that his were wrong (we patched things up later). Lastly, it made me have weird sexual fantasies...usually involving balloons and feet...and prostitutes. I know there is one thing I am forgetting, but alas, I will post it later as soon as I remember.
Zyrtec: Made me a little on edge and very emotional...I cried a lot. That's all, it was minor.
I know I need my ADHD medication because I would end up failing right out of school...My focus is that bad. The medication I am on does not seem to be working for me too well (It used to, but I became immune to it...). My focus is so bad right now I'm not even playing my video games, because I am sucking ass and I space out and get killed. Even the intense focus that Asperger's Syndrome gives me only works some of the time.
I know what I need, and I know what I don't. If I was not treated for my ADHD, I would probobly kill myself, because I could never finish anything. I would never be able to hold a job, because my focus would suck. I have had it with ADHD...I wish there was some kind of surgery they could do to speed up your frontal lobe.
Zonegran: Happened in school. I was angry at everyone and everything, and incredibly hateful and delusional. I was nasty to my friends and everyone around me. I still have a rep that carries with me today from this shit.
Geodon: Made me totally delusional and angry. At Tech Camp, this Jamaican kid had to call his parents in Jamaica, and the medication made me so paranoid I watched over him because he was black...funny thing that even if he did steal it, it would be found. The camp was up at Vassar College, and the dorms are tiny and small and it would have been sure to be found. I did not even trust my newly made friends. When my mom shipped my 5" black and white TV and my Playstation to me, I kept everyone out of my dorm because I thought that they would try and steal it/use me to play it. I tried to convince my newly made friend that my views were always right, and that his were wrong (we patched things up later). Lastly, it made me have weird sexual fantasies...usually involving balloons and feet...and prostitutes. I know there is one thing I am forgetting, but alas, I will post it later as soon as I remember.
Zyrtec: Made me a little on edge and very emotional...I cried a lot. That's all, it was minor.
I know I need my ADHD medication because I would end up failing right out of school...My focus is that bad. The medication I am on does not seem to be working for me too well (It used to, but I became immune to it...). My focus is so bad right now I'm not even playing my video games, because I am sucking ass and I space out and get killed. Even the intense focus that Asperger's Syndrome gives me only works some of the time.
I know what I need, and I know what I don't. If I was not treated for my ADHD, I would probobly kill myself, because I could never finish anything. I would never be able to hold a job, because my focus would suck. I have had it with ADHD...I wish there was some kind of surgery they could do to speed up your frontal lobe.
Madness to magnet.
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dude, is that your fault or a failure of the educational institution to be able to work with people who learn differently?
oh, so you need a hole in the head?
lol.. dude, seriously, you're shy of 16. wait until the rocky part of puberty ends and decide whether your frontal lobe is still not caught up with the rest of your brain.
if you do it without the help of medication, you'll only be that much stronger.
now i'm gonna down a xanax because i almost snapped with all this work i have.
~ dan ~
oh, so you need a hole in the head?
lol.. dude, seriously, you're shy of 16. wait until the rocky part of puberty ends and decide whether your frontal lobe is still not caught up with the rest of your brain.
if you do it without the help of medication, you'll only be that much stronger.
now i'm gonna down a xanax because i almost snapped with all this work i have.
~ dan ~
Yeah...I'm really hoping for that. My mom also has ADHD, and she grew out of it...I can only hope the same happens to me...
As for me failing out of school? I would fail out because I could not pay attention. I would just simply space out all the time, in all subjects but Social Studies and Science, the two subjects that I love the most.
As for me failing out of school? I would fail out because I could not pay attention. I would just simply space out all the time, in all subjects but Social Studies and Science, the two subjects that I love the most.
sangamitra
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the same DOES happen to you. was your mom medicated as a kid? being medicated will SLOW the process of your "growing out of it."
isn't it odd that your adhd isn't a problem when you "love" the material? let me translate that, in terms of education:
when you find the material engaging, your 'adhd' does not interfere with your learning.
maybe you need better teachers or a better school.
~ dan ~
isn't it odd that your adhd isn't a problem when you "love" the material? let me translate that, in terms of education:
when you find the material engaging, your 'adhd' does not interfere with your learning.
maybe you need better teachers or a better school.
~ dan ~