Chuckie Schumer and Harry Reid, for two of them. I wonder if Obama has figured out that at least some of this is retaliation for cramming the health care act down everyone's throats?
No shit they are going to say no, the Republicans want to make it a political clusterfuck in the middle of the next election, I guarantee you if this plan called for a new restructuring of the debt ceiling after the election, even the Republicans wouldn't vote for it.
One team wants to turn a routine budgeting measure that we've done 30+ times from Reagan to Bush...and turn it into forcing the economy to collapse unless Democrats agree to end Medicare
But yes, politics is always equal
Like when republicans went balls out to make gay marriage illegal
This is the crux of the issue. There are people who recognize that there are some rich people who make their money from productive activities. And other rich people who are in line between the government and where the government senRAB the tax dollars of everyone else. And the people who realize this want to cause a shakeup so that these "rich" people, who are in reality nothing but suit wearing welfare babies, get tossed out of the boat.