Demonoid Confusion

I am fairly new to the torrent world and am a little confused about private trackers. Every forum I visit claims that "so and so tracker is hard to get into." Among them is Demonoid. I've heard mixed messages about Demonoid. One is that its very hard to get into similar to bitme and only by invites. However, maybe its my luck, I got an account on Desmonoid today. From what I read, Demonoid is a semi-private tracker.

Can someone clear this up for me? I want to learn more about this and have searched everywhere.

Thank you in advance.
 
I don't think my ratio has been properly tracked there in at least a year, and I don't do any member number crap. It's just a poor system without passkeys, especially in the age of dynamic IPs. Altering a torrent filename doesn't do jack shit, try it with any torrent, rename it something completely irrelevant and it'll work fine.

Regarding how they get your IP address to check stats, it's THROUGH THE TRACKER.

Anyway until you come up with something relevant, I suggest you cease spreading your misinformation and leave the advice to people who understand how a .torrent file works.
 
Why don't you pose that question, along with your theory that stats are tracked by member number and not IP addresses in Demonoid's forum where their own staff members can address it?
 
I just downloaded a Demonoid-tracker torrent as a guest. :unsure:

Ratio is not meaningless, but it is not enforced...
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That's what I meant with "meaningless".

They do not track by IP address... they track by 'member number'.
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This is wrong. I suggest you change your IP and try to download a Demonoid torrent without being logged in to the site with your new address. You'll see your stats don't update.

For example - White.Collar.S02E04.By.the.Book.HDTV.XviD.FQM.269XXXX.6834.torrent

269XXXX.6834 is a member number... edit that number out of the torrent name, and it becomes a 'public' (non-ratio) torrent.
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How would they know you've changed the number? The filename isn't passed to the tracker, and the info_hash remains the same.
 
I believe the thread title is most appropriate...

Now if the OP can decipher and figure out who gave good info, who gave useless info, and who gave bad info...
 
P2PDog said:
When you download or seed a torrent using the Demonoid tracker using the IP address that is currently associated with your account, they will track the stats for that torrent. If you log into the site with one IP, then download the torrent with a different IP (for example: using a seedbox) then the stats will not be recorded on your account.
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And that's about it.
 
Demonoid allows a limited number of 'free' downloads by 'guests'. If you look at the torrent name, it won't have a 'member-number'.

Ratio is not meaningless, but it is not enforced...
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That's what I meant with "meaningless".
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If you say so... my response was more accurate.

They do not track by IP address... they track by 'member number'.
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This is wrong. I suggest you change your IP and try to download a Demonoid torrent without being logged in to the site with your new address. You'll see your stats don't update.
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Again, I refer you to the 'member-number'. Proof... the torrent you downloaded as a 'guest', and the same torrent being available on Pirate Bay, etc. The 'external copies' won't have the 'member-number' in the filename.

For example - White.Collar.S02E04.By.the.Book.HDTV.XviD.FQM.269XXXX.6834.torrent

269XXXX.6834 is a member number... edit that number out of the torrent name, and it becomes a 'public' (non-ratio) torrent.
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How would they know you've changed the number? The filename isn't passed to the tracker, and the info_hash remains the same.[/QUOTE]

Again, 'member-number'... not the 'private-flag'... and the 'external copies'.
 
Yes, that's right.

Again, 'member-number'... not the 'private-flag'... and the 'external copies'.
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I fail to see how this number is passed to the tracker. I downloaded the same .torrent while logged in to my account, and they're exactly the same (checked the MD5).

The member number you mention is merely appended to the filename when you download .torrents while logged in and isn't used to identify you when you leech or seed. Even if it was, it's easily changeable like you mentioned.
 
Burnsy said:
Don't worry about it mate... you'll find this happens with about 99 out of 100 threads posted. Just wade through what's posted and try to take info out of it that answers your question.

Threads on here start of addressing what you originally asked, then they take a complete tangent as other people jump in and start to converse with each other. It's not a slight on you, just look at any other threads :lol:

Also, don't worry if you don't understand some stuff... you'll notice some members knowledge is greater than others, and their 'base level' if higher than a lot can understand, again it happens :) If you're really lucky, you'll get some idiot pretending to be an expert only to be shot down in flames... those are the good threads :)
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Told ya :D

bumrocks said:
I believe the thread title is most appropriate...

Now if the OP can decipher and figure out who gave good info, who gave useless info, and who gave bad info...
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Patience bumrocks my good man... allow the thread to run it's course and those chatting shit will be revealed... surely you know that by now?!

ticchen said:
So in conclusion non members on Demonoid:
1. can't access forum
2. limited access on torrents

Got that right?
Sorry, but I'm trying =/
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I think now if you disregard the shit that has been exposed in this thread, your original question(s) will most probably be covered? :)
 
P2PDog said:
Why don't you pose that question, along with your theory that stats are tracked by member number and not IP addresses in Demonoid's forum where their own staff members can address it?
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Because it doesn't bother me that it's broken.

In any event, it doesn't explain why Demonoid torrents still work... when you download them from a Pirate Bay account.

A. Because they're not 'private' torrents... and they never were.
 
Wwwildthing said:
There is alot of mis-information in this thread.

Semi-Private = the forums are private (registered members only), the Demonoid tracked torrents are private, the 'external' torrents are public.
Ratio is not meaningless, but it is not enforced... it's mostly a 'ego-thing'.
They do not track by IP address... they track by 'member number'.

For example - White.Collar.S02E04.By.the.Book.HDTV.XviD.FQM.269XXXX.6834.torrent

269XXXX.6834 is a member number... edit that number out of the torrent name, and it becomes a 'public' (non-ratio) torrent.

Anyone who tells you differently, is mis-informed.
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You should let the Demonoid staff know that they don't track stats by a member's IP. They all seem to be under the impression that they do, and they're giving out a lot of misinformation in their forums...

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The only conclusion that I can draw from this thread... is that each and every one of you, completely missed the point.

Fact - Demonoid torrents have the 'private' flag set to 'off'.
Fact - Demonoid torrents do not use passkeys.
Fact - Torrents downloaded from Demonoid (while you are logged in) will have a 'member-number' in the filename.
Fact - Torrents downloaded from Demonoid (while you are a 'guest') will not.
Fact - Demonoid torrents downloaded from other index sites (i.e - The Pirate Bay) will not count towards your ratio at Demonoid (even tho it is tracked by Demonoid).
Fact - All of the above is true with a static ip address (known to the Demonoid tracker)... just as it is with a 'dynamic' ip address... or one provided via TOR.

The point of my comments was not to fix my broken ratio. I don't care what my ratio is... and there is no reason to do so.

Maybe now you'll get it... but I'm not really optimistic that you will.
 
Wwwildthing said:
Fact - Demonoid torrents downloaded from other index sites (i.e - The Pirate Bay) will not count towards your ratio at Demonoid (even tho it is tracked by Demonoid).
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Wrong. You really should take a couple of minutes to read that link that I posted. It would make you look much less like a fool :)

http://fora.demonoid.com/index.php?topic=107626.0
I haven't downloaded anything from Demonoid in a while, but my ratio keeps changing. Should I assume my account was hacked, and if so how can it be checked/proved?

It could be a case of dynamic IP's at work. The one Demonoid had stored next to your account was probably assigned to someone else who was a member of Demonoid and their stats got added to yours.

Or you inadvertently downloaded and seeded a Demonoid tracked torrent from another site, unaware that the stats would be sent to the Demonoid tracker. This seems to be the reason it happens mostly, people downloading Demonoid tracked torrents from other torrent index sites.
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Wwwildthing said:
Fact - All of the above is true with a static ip address (known to the Demonoid tracker)... just as it is with a 'dynamic' ip address... or one provided via TOR.
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Wrong.


Wwwildthing said:
The point of my comments was not to fix my broken ratio. I don't care what my ratio is... and there is no reason to do so.
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Correct. Ratio is meaningless at Demonoid. Mostly because they use the wildly inaccurate method of tracking ratio by IP address, rather than using passkeys. (or member numbers. lol)

Wwwildthing said:
Maybe now you'll get it... but I'm not really optimistic that you will.
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The only one not getting it appears to be you, and I doubt that you ever will.
 
Wwwildthing said:
Because it doesn't bother me that it's broken.

In any event, it doesn't explain why Demonoid torrents still work... when you download them from a Pirate Bay account.

A. Because they're not 'private' torrents... and they never were.
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It may not bother you, but you still seem to be under the impression that Demonoid stats are tracked by member number, and not IP addresses, and you're wrong about that. You don't seem to want to believe anything anyone here is telling you, so that's why I suggest you take the issue up with the Demonoid staff, and you can get your answer straight from the horses mouth.

Demonoid torrents will work no matter where you download them from. You're connecting to the Demonoid tracker, it doesn't care where you found the .torrent file.

Edit: This is from that link I posted earlier. I really recommend you read it...

I haven't downloaded anything from Demonoid in a while, but my ratio keeps changing. Should I assume my account was hacked, and if so how can it be checked/proved?

It could be a case of dynamic IP's at work. The one Demonoid had stored next to your account was probably assigned to someone else who was a member of Demonoid and their stats got added to yours.

Or you inadvertently downloaded and seeded a Demonoid tracked torrent from another site, unaware that the stats would be sent to the Demonoid tracker. This seems to be the reason it happens mostly, people downloading Demonoid tracked torrents from other torrent index sites.

Or lastly, you share a network with others (room-mates/family) and they might have done like above or downloaded directly from Demonoid using their own account.
In which case, Demonoid only sees the one external IP, so it's luck of the draw who gets the stats.
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ticchen said:
So in conclusion non members on Demonoid:
1. can't access forum
2. limited access on torrents

Got that right?
Sorry, but I'm trying =/
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3. Many Demonoid torrents can also be found on other trackers, such as The Pirate Bay, H33T, etc.

@P2PDog - It's been this way since they were knocked off of Leaseweb (to my knowledge, that's when I noticed it)... given that it's been under new management since then, they either don't know or don't care.
 
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