Dealer Service - Anatomy of a Warranty Service

Roy W

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The bike is back together and in my garage. Tomorrow is shaping up to be a fantastic day weather wise and I plan on getting out the door by 8:00am. Once I'm done this post I will start mapping my route.

The verdict on the dealer experience? As good as it could have been. The dealer did right by me. The service manager was great to deal with and they really seemed to go above and beyond when returning the bike to me. In fact, me thinks they are reading this thread.

The clues were evident when I picked up the bike. First, it was covered in a sheet and presented like a new model at a dealer show or the lid coming off a gourmet meal. Second, it was attached to a battery tender which I referenced just a post ago. The contact from Jean through out my wait was great as well. So hey, A+ on the effort. I do appreciate it. Even had a designated time to pick up the bike and Jean came out to greet me rather than me walking inside. Helped me load the bike and everything.

So why do I still feel a little weird about everything? Again, nothing against the dealership. I think it's all a part of Ducati ownership. I think I'm a "Ducati Owner", not a Ducatista.

I bought the Ducati because of what it is, not the name on the tank. That's just a bonus! The bike being an 849cc twin, more potent than a 600 not as psycho as a 1000, single sided swingarm, Brembo everything, amazing styling, etc... it's really appealing to me. However, if this bike had "Honda" or "Suzuki" or "KTM" written on the tank, I'd love it just as much. I just wanna ride the bike. The Ducati club part isn't my thing. I don't know, maybe I have too much of a zip tie and duct tape mentality. It just feels more like a boutique than a motorcycle shop when I walk in.

Case in point, my rear tire. They wouldn't road test my bike because of the "dangerous" condition of the rear tire (And hey, I don't care. They replaced the radiator, not the heads. Keep the mileage off the bike). I cleaned the bike before bringing it to the dealer. Had to identify where the leak was coming from. Part of my routine is using WD40 to get all the stuck rubber and chain lube off the rim. Had it at a track day the weekend before and it was filthy. Some of the WD40 got on the tire. Okay, a good amount of WD40 got on the tire.

The dealer was so concerned about riding the motorcycle they had me sign a waiver indicating I understood they didn't road test it. Now c'mon, that's a little weird isn't it? First, a road test isn't all that important on this repair. But if it were, why not strap it to the dyno and run it? It's just strange to me that I had to sign a waiver acknowledging no road test and why. Felt eerily like a jab from one of the partners who helped me unload when I dropped the bike off. Made sure to let me know about the tire being dangerous.

Call me crazy, but that's a little naive IMHO. I mean, picture what the tire looked like. It's a Dragon Supercorsa Pro (a real one, not OEM) that has 3 track days at Calabogie on it. I mean, frightening looking to the uninitiated. But perfectly fine for a street ride. So, you're looking at this shredded track tire and you're concerned with the spots of WD40 on it? Personally I'd be more concerned with the ski slope on the right side. Trust me, it looks much worse than it really is.

Okay, whatever. Everyone has to cover their ass. I get it. Just doesn't feel like there are motorcycle people in there. More like Ducati people. For the record, I'll probably put 200-300 miles on that tire tomorrow.

As with all things on the internet I'm blowing this way out of proportion I know. I tech bikes at track days and you should see the stuff people try to get passed. Maybe I'm just desensitized to it all. I'm perfectly comfortable with that tire. But I'm glad they did what they did. Just weird with the waiver is all. What am I gonna do? Sue them if the radiator leaks because they didn't drive it up and down the street?

All that aside, the dealership experience was great. Jean deserves a raise for having to walk the line between the owners of the place and goofy customers like myself. I recommend anyone in the area check them out. I imagine you cannot do any better in the world of Ducati and I will keep my business with them...if they'll have me.

The dealer is: http://www.eurosports.net/?sid=enter
 
Cecil, Hi!!
Gonna put my neck on the line a little here, and speak up for the dealership and spare parts
people at Ducati. There are a few issues in your post that I hope you will re-consider.

I dont know how things work in the states, but here we have an importer that handles stock and distribution to dealerships. A middle man who orders stock and high turn over parts in large quantities at regular intervals, to keep overheads down.
Ducati does not have company based importers/distributors worldwide, like for instance harley or yamaha, etc
Dealership orders from importer, if not in stock, importer orders from factory, if not in stock at the factory, part has to be manufactured. A time consuming excercise and often painful for the customer.
Hence the 3 week wait thing. Your dealership has recognised complaints from previous customers and is trying to deal with it in some way. (which is a plus) (the tyre thing is pretty responsible of them in my opinion!!)
Another issue, unfortunately for you, is, as someone stated earlier in this thread, the closure in august of the ducati factory. Which, happened to coincide with your bikes problem.
Sounds as if supply/demand quota of known faulted parts was not met either at the factory prior to summer closing, or was not pre-ordered by importer in your country.
There have often been a few issues with the newer models on their teething year of production, which I fully appreciate being an owner of an 848 myself, and an ex ducati spare parts person, at partners dealership. (
 
Rode the bike twice since getting it back. The voltage regulator went bad last night and left me stranded. If I can't find a replacement unit today, meaning either one is in stock or they pull one off another bike, the 848 is history. I'll be contacting Eurosport, Ferracci, and Jack Trebour within the next 15 minutes. If none of them can come through for me, as I have a big ride planned for tomorrow, the 848 will be on ebay and a CBR will be in the garage before my next ride.

POS!
 
Wow, does that blow! This VR thing should have been recalled months ago. (supposedly recall is coming)
I can feel your frustration, good luck!
 
Holy shit! Gotta call it fair and square. Best service I've ever received from any dealer of any vehicle I've ever owned.

Eurosport of Coopersburg, PA has me back on the road. Called Jean, the service manager, at 9:00am on the dot. She had me bring the bike in, had a new regulator in hand, and just called to tell me I can pick it up. It was being buttoned up at 12:30, less than 3 hours after dropping it off. They also replaced he battery just in case. That rocks.

I really can't say enough about this. I was fully prepared to miss another beautiful day of riding tomorrow. Have a couple of buddies coming up to my place from the Jersey Shore. We're taking our annual fall ride up through the mountains and twisties of North Eastern, PA. Might even cross into New York for a bit. Either that or we head over to coal country.

Last night I rode to Doylestown with a friend for dinner. Got into town and looked down to see the CEL on. Next stop I checked the battery voltage and it was at 5.2. After just 2 rides since getting it back I was out of my mind over the bike. The new R1 with the big bang engine was calling to me. I was going to sell the 848. But I'm keeping it now thanks to Jean and the Eurosport service department. Was seriously bummed last night. Drank a bit too much over it.

Eurosport has totally taken care of me and I highly recommend them to anyone in this area. I remain a Ducati owner.


btw... the regulator was replaced with a unit for a 749 / 996 (what it said on the box). Apparently this is a big problem with the new bikes and the old regulators are much more reliable.
 
this be true cecil.
the replacement reg/rec is from 999 model, the company sourced a different manufacturer for part for the 848/1098 series, hence current problems...
 
What's better? DNA has really got their hooks into me now! Just got off the phone with "Sintcha (sp?)" at Ducati North America. She called me about my recent service experience at Martin's Eurosport and apologized for the parts delivery on the radiator. Made sure I was happy with the service I just received on the voltage regulator. And because of the recent difficulties with my ride they are sending me a $300 voucher for Ducati parts or service via Fed Ex. That's totally awesome!

Makes me think my next bike purchase may just be another Ducati. Outstanding! Seems I purchased a lot more than just a motorcycle. Very very happy with Ducati right now. They rock!
 
Honestly? This has been so excessive, and your claims about your senior leadership expertise, etc. suggests you impose unreasonable expectations on everything around you. Again, the excessive narrative and endless ranting proves that Ducati ownership is NOT for you, my man.

Go back to your Gixxer. It only gets worse from here.

Hell, I'd hate to see what happens when you have to wait 6 months for an axle, or get told your valves are different than every other 848 in the world, purely as some nonsensical excuse for not being able to fix some strange problem you show them, while they build and re-build the motor 20 times.

Oh, and the ongoing care all Duc owners need to be responsible for, purely as standard operating procedure for owning an exotic Italian vehicle?

Fugetaboutit.... It's going to make your head explode!

Shit, just this one issue essentially did!!

My recommendation? Keep an eye on the upcoming BMW1000RR. It'll be exotic, hot and built to last. It should be perfect for you.

Stay away from anything Italian. Aprilias and Bimotas are a gazillion times worse than Ducati!

Seriously. The situation you describe, is just another day with a Ducati for the rest of us.
 
Have to disagree with a couple of points here.

Looks like Ducati NA and the dealership really stepped up to the plate on this one.

I have a 2005 BMW K1200S and there has been many problems with the recent Beemers, including final drive failures, transmission problems, immobilizer ring issues, etc., basically QC issues resulting in many unhappy campers. Although the 1000RR MAY be a good bike, the assumption that it will be a bike "built to last" will remain to be proven.
 
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