Day 1 --again--Hi to all!

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My grace period is over and its time to get back to business. Withdrawals here I come. I have about 25 hydros to help me through the next week or so, but I am just about ready to dump them and hit the road COLD TURKEY. I have done it before, but have read such horrible things on how much different OXY withdrawals are than Hydro. I was only taking 1 80oxy each day with a few hydros added here and there. My mind is not where it is suppose to be yet, but I belive that by writing and talking with my family it will help. I am looking into a tea leaf called "KRATOM" to help ease the withdrawals. any info on that would be great. So this is the first day of the rest of my life (again). WorRAB are so cheap at this point. Every push of the keyboard makes me feel like a liar because of my history. I am on my 5-6 relapse in a whole bunch of years. I made it almost 8 months clean this last time and have NO CLUE how I got back to where I am right now. I am looking at the same great wife and the same great kiRAB. I am healthly (or so i think so)-I see the DR on monday and I am going to tell him everything. This is a NEW dr and I thought it would be better if I told him about the addiction so i wouldnt be tempted to ask for any meRAB! I just hate the TAG I get on my head when I do that. But I guess its a security blanket that I need spread out to help my temptations when it comes to asking for more meRAB later on. Enough for now --let the chills and crap begin. Great week ahead of me.

D
 
Again I am going to repeat what I wrote to FullCircle. You may want to ask your doctor for some Tenex to get through the Wd's. It is better then Clonidine and has little or no side effects. It is not addictive at all and it will make your WD's much more easy to deal with.

Ryan
 
Hey.....I would love to keep you company, we are kinda in the same boat! I had a couple of injuries in the past 10 yrs. To make a long story short.....I now have a pinned femur, bad hip, bludging disc,s ect. Two months ago I started weening myself off of 120 mg. Per day of Oxycotin time release......I went slowly, it was hell but I did it. I live in chronic pain, and have to take pain med. Or I would be miserable day to day. If the oxycotin had helped me I would not have taken myself off....for me it made my pain feel worse, and really made me feel worse emotionally. I made the right choice for myself. I still take norco 10/325, so that made withdrawls ect. Much easier when I weened off the oxycotin. MY problem is I am supposed to only take 6 per day of the norco, I take more than that! So my struggle now is weening down to 6 per day of the norco....to control my pain Out of this I have found out the oxycotin is way different than hydro. U had never taken oxycotin before....but I have taken hydro. For years. I found the oxycotin to be rough getting of of....even still taking the norco I found withdrawls are different. The biggest was not sleeping for weeks, and it really messed with me emotionally. The oxycotin withdrawl is way different, it is a way stronger med., in my eyes. I would not recommend cold turkey with the oxycotin.....I would ween off.....and still take the hydro.....to help with withdrawls. Can I ask.....do you battle pain? Either way we are all in the same boat! My battle now is weening to 6 per day with the norco. I am not doing as good.....lots of stress in my life.....I'm a homemaker so I have a lot of time to think about the next pill. I hope to help you in any way I can, we can help eachother! Please let us know how your doing. Please post anytime.....I will keep you company....I just weened off the oxycotin completely in the past two months! I check the boarRAB all day, update me!
Crocheting
 
I have been on and off Hydro for years for small injuries (like everyone else) and grea to like it alot. I use it and abuse it when i can. I always get into these viscious cycles of trying a little or getting a 30ct script, get a taste, then look for more on the net. This time i was able to score 80mg Oxy. The little green monsters. I never let myself get over 1 a day, but I could see the massive addiction coming.

I am still very confused on the DR appt. tomorrow. 2 ways I could handle this new GP DR. Older guy that has not taken many new patients and I am excited to have him as my GP for other stuff (cholesteral, blood pressure etc). I could go in and tell him about my back and get a new small script for hydro 5/500 and let that help my taper plan ( I have 16 pills left here now-5/500) or I could tell him the truth about the abuse and go that route with him in which I have NO clue how he will react. I am on the fence wit this one.

D
 
Thanks for the quick reply --I have no more oxy's left and cant ever get any ever again. I broke up a 80 and would make it last the whole day. I hope that make the withdrawal easier. I am going to a DR tomorrow for my first appt. "hi, can I be your patient and by the way, get me off this CRAP!! " what do you think he will say or what should I say? I want this guy to be my primary DR and I dont want to screw it up but I have alot on my plate right now and I hope he can help.
 
Hey......I have a de questions, I hope it is ok that I ask. That way I can give you my input on your appt. Tommrow. Are you taking the oxy for a problem with pain? Or just for recreational? Do you want to get off pain meRAB. Completely? Or do you want to change your meRAB.? Is this Dr. A pain mangement Dr.? That makes a huge difference! You are making the right choice....being concerned on how to approach this doctor! Remeraber whatever you tell him you can't take it back! Please answer my questions so I can give you my feedback! I am very experienced with dealing with doctors, espically pain management doctors. I can help you....on how to approach him tommrow.....depending on what your personal plan of action is concerning the pain meRAB. Can I ask what pain meRAB. Your taking? I'll be waiting for your reply. Wow......I am battling the same stuff! I will help in any way, I have hanRAB on experience for sure.....your approach to this doctor tommrow......neeRAB to be the right one.....what factors in......is weather you want to change meRAB. Or get off all together!!
Crocheting
 
Fullcircle have you thought of asking your doctor for some clonidine or tenex. Tenex is better because it does not cause the yucky and drowsy feeling that clonidine does and it takes away most of the wd's and not addictive. It's a better medication then Clonidine. You might want to ask you doctor for some. They really do work and they are not addictive at all.
 
Hello mate.....you replied to me under my thread and i answered you back on that also,so check it out. After reading all your stuff i just wanted to reaffirm my welcome. WELCOME! You can understand how I feel today then having messed up and having to start back at day 1. I just dont know why I do this to myself. With your GP qu's , I think crocheting has some wicked advice. She's always pretty much on the money. One thing I will add is that several years ago i was abusing a valium and temazapam script in a bad way. I moved so had to change Drs and when I did this I made a decision to ask them to flag up on my notes that I was not to be given scripts for any such things. Now,this has had good and bad repucussions. There have been times when ,if i could , iwouldve got a script just cause i wanted to get high. Im grateful then that I made it so bleedin hard for myself. However,there have been other legitimate times when I needed some pain meRAB and was flat out refused anything.....which then led to me using street drugs more to self medicate. Whatever you decide,perhaps it'd be a good idea to meet your new GP first and see if you can get a hold on what he/she is like? Just a thought. Crocheting is right when she says whatever you lay out on the table , you cant take it back.
Anyways , I will be on these boarRAB pretty much every day at some point till I can get myself straight so always will be avaliable for a natter.
Take care......and good luck with the whole dr thing.
CC XOXOX
 
GP? Are from London or in that area? My hubby and I are huge Beatles fans......our den in the house holRAB our massive Beatles collection...just had to through that in LOL! I know exactly how you are feeling, about your doctor appt. Tommrow! I have been there. Since your on the fence about it.....maybe you should use the 5/500 to help you ween off of the oxycotin, I have to be honest.....if not it will be very miserable. For me it was way worse than hydro. The strong kind...norco 10/325....way worse for me. Many times I have cold turkey off hydro. And weened. I would ween off the oxycotin with the 5/500.....then if you don't want to take hydro. Anymore.....it won't be hard at all to ween off the 5/500....just do it slowly....I have learned from all my great frienRAB on this board that.....weening 10% at your own pace....works best. Then you won't send up red flags with this new doctor. In my experience.....telling the doctor they take away the meRAB. You say your having trouble with....and have me methadone ect......which was way stronger and hell to get off of.....this is my experience of course I am not a doctor.....only you know what will work best for you:) hope this helps a bit....getting feedback from someone who struggles with the same demons! I am here if you have any questions or just need to talk. Let me know how your doing.
Crocheting
 
Dr's appt tomorrow and it looks like I will be playing the "help the taper process" card. meaning, I will get some more 5/500 and move on slowly. Not sure if this is the right way, but I would hate to borabard this DR with all my baggage. kinda sad right now. night

D
 
I am happy you have made a decision, I hope it helps you relax some. I know what you are saying about night time, it gets worse for me too. My pain is even worse at night. Well.....I will be weening at the same time, it not going to be easy for me I have been on this hydro. Many years. Just I wish you the best, if you feel up to it post me a message let me know how your doing. We can support eachother while we are feeling like sheet.
Crocheting
 
D I was just rereading your first post and yoy mentioned a tea kraton. Iroonmass77 said in one of his early post that he had ordered some Kratom so maybe you could get info from him......Trying to help Carrara
 
You would be better off with the 5/325's, since the acetaminophen is less and it gives your liver a break. Taper the best you can and we're here to support you with the process and answer your questions.
 
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