Cybercat

sf wrote:


Tsk, tsk, tsk sf - now who's making assumptions and dishing out
criticism? You think RSA is a "small country with lots money and
vacation time"? You've got the "small" part right in comparison to
countries like the USA and China of course, (one only has to look at a
world map to figure that out) but as for vacation time, most people get
15 days a year here unless they work for some really "generous"
employer - and if you think *I* am one of those with lots of money,
think again.



Funny you should mention that. I think it fits you better - but not only
when travelling at home - because I seem to recall you posting to
r.f.c. from several different states in the USA and several different
countries in the world over the last five years - giving us
blow-by-blow accounts of your days and your likes/dislikes while on
your various trips... Must have been rather frustrating on that cruise
you took tho' - I believe you said it was rather expensive for internet
connectivity when you were on board ship (if it was available at all).
Oh, and wasn't that the trip you bought that netbook for or was that
for the China trip? Anywho, must have been much easier than carting
around a laptop, whenever it was.


I seem to recall Janet mentioning (more than once) that Brits/Europeans
often travel to places like the USA and Australia as well as in Europe
itself, but I could be mistaken. But several of my British family and
friends have traveled all the way out here to RSA on vacation if that
counts.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy
 
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:25:06 GMT, notbob wrote:


Especially with you, nb... why? Because you're so special.

I didn't say jealous. I said mad.
Apple was and still is very good at getting their computers into
schools. I could have said "indoctrinated", but I refrained.

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Never trust a dog to watch your food.
 
On Sep 21, 5:40?pm, Janet wrote:

I'm speaking of people I know and know of. It IS expensive, and many
of us do not have disposable income that enables frequent travel
abroad.

N.
 
"J. Clarke" wrote in
news:[email protected]:



LOL!! Sorta like the sticker I had on one of my cars...... "This car is
protected by Smith and Wesson 4 days a week. You guess which 4 days." :-)



--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

The act of feeding someone is an act of beauty,
whether it's a full Sunday roast or a jam sandwich,
but only when done with love.
 
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:33:10 +0200, ChattyCathy
wrote:


No. I'm *not* impressed. We used to have open boarders and now we
don't... I'm disgusted with this "homeland security" which is more
like a homeland prison system. You *not* North Americans may be used
to that sort of thing, we are not and shouldn't have to put up with it
any longer. "Homeland Security" was put into place by permanently
scared people... you know who - all those gun nuts. They have
concealed weapons, open carry, wrap themselves in the flag and abuse
the second amendment, but they can't put all of their gun carrying
nuttiness to good use and actually DEFEND themselves. They want to
put up fences, sit at the boarders in their barcaloungers, dragging on
a long neck and acting macho, but when push comes to shove, they want
MORE government in their lives, not less. They are just a bunch of
big mouthed chickenshits. Homeland Security - BAH, humbug.

Not to anyone who has the slightest clue that the USA has just as much
to offer internally as the rest of the world. We may be lacking the
"history" but we have jaw dropping sights to see... and frankly some
of them are under advertised. For instance, one on my to do list is
White Sands National monument in New Mexico - I think it's going to
blow the Sahara and Gobi away.

People sell their houses, buy motor homes and travel for years touring
the USA. We covered 4100 miles by car. Not bad for a two week
outing, planned virtually at the last minute and with only one
reservation at the main point of interest.

For the same reason you'd do anything else, you do it to see in person
what you've read and heard about.


Why would it be? I've been to both countries several times and still
have plenty left to see and do in both.

Nobody said they weren't interested. The people whose comments I've
read say they don't have the time and/or the money to travel abroad.
Vacations cost considerably more when you don't have friends/relatives
to put you up for the night. To an American, "abroad" means crossing
an ocean (not a boarder into Canada or Mexico)... which is much easier
for those on the East Coast than it is for people on the West Coast
because we need 5 flight hours just to cross the country. To put it
into perspective, European travel for Easterners is like going to
Hawaii is for Westerners.


You can't have it both ways. Either I'm an ugly American who hasn't
traveled or I'm not.

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Never trust a dog to watch your food.
 
On Sep 24, 3:54?am, [email protected] (Steve Pope) wrote:

It may help when he goes to Kansas to visit his daughter at college,
but I'm not sure they fly to the Eastern Iowa airport.... maybe to
Moline, which is only 60 miles away.

N.
 
On 9/22/2010 8:18 PM, Aussie wrote:

Nope. There are heavy discounts available on specific routes by
discounted airlines, but for general travel no. For example I can go
from Boston to Las Vegas for 90 bucks, but not from Hartford to Atlanta.


In the US a CCW does that.
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:51:23 +0100, Ophelia wrote:



have you noticed that sheldon has to laugh at his own jokes because no one
else does?

your pal,
blake
 
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 12:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:


That part is easy enough to ignore and make go away visually too.


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Never trust a dog to watch your food.
 
Hardee's. [Heh. Even our local McD's outlets don't have sausage

I daresay all of us are guilty of it at some time or other. When
responding, I don't always pay attention to where the person is
posting from - my bad.

N.
 
"Ophelia" wrote:


"Love on the rocks... Aint no surprise... la la la"


Cope with it, moron.
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:38:19 -0700, sf wrote:


Yeah, sounds like Steve's mother's idea of serving the family dinner
was no different from a farmer slopping the hogs.
 
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 06:45:54 -0500, Andy wrote:

So what, in the past ten years the price of a loaf of bread has
skyrocketed too, from $1.19 to $3.99... are you going to stop eating
$8/lb ham sandwiches because two slices of bread now costs 40?

Relative to the cost of travel the price of a passport is chump
change... for someone who travels even once a year the cost of a
passport is $12.50/yr... for someone going out of country even four
times a year the passport costs less than a cup of coffee per trip.
For anyone who travels the cost of a passport is not a speck in the
equation.

I had a current passport all my adult life but when it was time to
renew two years ago I had realized that in ten years I hadn't used my
passport even once and was 100% certain I would never have use for it
again, so now I don't have one and I don't feel the least bit naked.
There is nowhere on the planet that I would like to visit that I
already haven't and many more than once. I have no family or friends
out of country that I would visit... I have a few distant relatives in
Argentina that I have never seen or even communicated. The last time
I was out of the US was 15 years ago when I used to visit Belize
often. I've done most of my travel in the US by automobile, don't see
anything flying (driven in every state but Hawaii, I traveled from LA
to Alaska by motorcycle,1965), plenty to see here, can't see it all in
10 life times... there are places in the US I still may one day hop in
my car and visit... I've driven all through Mexico and extensively
through Canada (I've seen more of Canada than most Canadians), have no
desire to go there again... the things that would interest me in
Canada have vastly deteriorated in the past 50 years same as in the
US... most of the National Parks I visited over my lifetime have been
destroyed to the point that they are now slums (especially CA, CA is
bankrupt in more ways than economically), they ALL need to be
permanently closed to the public, visit by CD.
 
Brooklyn1 wrote in news:c7om96he4s6a9jqq1mortpreoocbtne0q8@
4ax.com:





Sounds like you've been there, done that.




Yeah, I wouldn't bother if I was you. We get enough obnoxious Yanks over
here as it is.

It would also save you the embarrassment of not being able to gain entry,
and being put on the first flight back home.


--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

The act of feeding someone is an act of beauty,
whether it's a full Sunday roast or a jam sandwich,
but only when done with love.
 
On Sep 21, 5:40?pm, Janet wrote:

I did not make any mistake - I'm well aware that Europeans travel to
places other than Europe, including the US. My statement stands:
There is no reason for any citizen here to have a passport, just to
have one. It's a silly expense. Trips are generally planned ahead of
time, and if a passport is needed, then it is acquired.

I don't know any "ordinary working people" (in my definition, making
$75K or less annually) who can afford non-US trips for fun on a
regular - annual or more frequent - basis. Maybe I'm just
associating with the wrong class of people, here in this super-
educated, academic-oriented city of 75,000 people. Not. But go ahead
and have your opinion, regardless of whether it's accurate or not.

N.
 
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:15:43 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


That goes for everywhere (not exclusively the USA), Ed. Italy
included. There are people who travel and those who feel most
comfortable never leaving their own little part of the world.

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Never trust a dog to watch your food.
 
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