Cruel Intentions #1

Reese and Ryan were already living together when they filmed this movie, but I'm not sure how long after it was when they actually got married.

I saw some of Cruel Intention 2 the other day when it was on tv, and I thought it wasn't good at all. I was mad that it was even associated with the first one.
 
yep it was really popular when I was in last yr of middle school beginning of high school I believe. It was the "it" movie to see. I thought SMG played a perfect villain and Ryan played a great villian in the beginning he was so charming but quite devious and he made you understand why everyone trusted him. I loved Reese in it too I believe Reese and Ryan might have been dating before, but I'm pretty sure they did get married not long after.
 
Reese and Ryan didn't met in the movie, they were already 2 years before together and Reese was pregnant while the movie was filmed...

To the movie:

I'm completely in love with the movie. I used to watch it the first time, cos i'm a SArah and Reese- Fan and I'm glad, that I watched it.
Kathryn and Sebastian are awesome, I love them together :blush:
Actually I like reese, but I can't stand the character Annete Hargrove :sigh:

Oh, I'm one of the few, who likes the ending, and that Sebastian died. Of course I would find it better, if Sebastian and Kathryn came together, but this ending is also good.
 
This movie was so popular when I was in high school. It was when the teeny bopper movie crase was at all time high. Sarah Michelle Gellar was perfect as the villian. Reese and Ryan were good too. Didn't they get married after the movie was made? Cause I remember hearing about that's how they met and fell in love.
 
Although I love this movie, I have to agree. Sebastian was about as cruel as Kathryn in the beginning. Then by the end he is like the good guy that you want to get on your hands and knees and bow down too. It just seemed to happen too fast. I think the change really has to deal with him falling in love with Annette but it still seems almost drastic. I could understand if the movie time frame was larger but wasn't it just a month or two?
 
I never read the book nor seen any of the other adaptations (and my entire French ancestry is probably rolling in their graves as I say this), so I can't comment on how good an adaptation of it/them it is. You seem to know and I have no problems taking your word for it.

My problem with the movie isn't whether it is well-adapted. In the end, it's not even about whether or not Annette and Sebastian have sex.

I'll even go one further, I am sure this is a good movie. I'm sure its quality is very high.

I didn't like it. But, if I think Joshua Jackson was the best thing about it, then you can hardly expect any different from me, can you?

I'm ready to admit that "giving" Sebastian her virginity can be understood as part of his character arc or, in some way I don't understand, as an act of love. But that's not the way I see it. To me, it doesn't resonate that way at all. I think that, if you're going to change your entire game plan about something has crucial as your first time, than the guy had better proven himself. And even then...

She had made a choice for herself. It's not the one I made, but it was her choice. And she changed her mind, for someone else. You can say it's love, and I do agree that she loved him, but I don't see love as a good enough reason for compromising your principles and yourself for someone else. Mind you, that could also be why I'm alone right now. :lol:

But, more importantly than any and all of that, I wasn't nearly half as interested in the Annette/Sebastien storyline as I was in his interaction with Kathryn. I know it was based on the book, so I guess that's why there wasn't more of the latter. Who knows? Maybe I wouldn't like the book either.
 
Well, alright then. :blush:

So, back to the point, I think one of the reasons I didn't like it was because I didn't particularly want good to defeat so-called evil in this one. Which isn't usually where I find myself in terms of movies, but I just thought the characterization of the "evil" ones was much stronger. Well, until Sebastian had a lobotomy anyway.
 
ironic as hell, i just open this thread and guess what starts playing on my iTunes? "Every Me Every You" by Placebo. No joke. haha.

This is one of my all-time favorite movies. The acting is amazing and the soundtrack kicks ass. One of my friends from high school cried every time at the end when Annette is driving Sebastian's car with his journal in the passenger seat. Such a bittersweet ending, I agree.
 
This isn't how the book goes though and why it is a faithful adaptation in this respect.

Also, the fact she gives him her virginity is part of Sebastian's character arc because most of the time he just takes what he wants which ultimately ends up having no meaning to him in the end. It was the fact Annette gave it to him willingly because she was in love with him -- who he was, despite all of his flaws -- Is why it isn't Annette being just a "weak girl" in this respect. It's not just the act of having sex itself, but the deeper meaning it has for both characters at a crucial point in their development and the story and is one of those elements that must be consistent through out the many film versions if they want to be in line with what the novel is really about in my opinion.
 
Thank you!

I didn't like it at all for pretty much the same reasons. I thought that Annette losing her virginity like that, when he was still a bastard, was lame. She was a much stronger character.

And, quite frankly, he was much stronger as a bastard, too.

The parts I found most interesting were the relationship between Sebastian and Kathryn (or however her name was spelled) and, of course, Joshua Jackson (who kinda stole the movie, as far as I'm concerned). And this isn't a diss on Reese Witherspoon. She's a great actress. Annette was a good character, too. I just didn't like that she waffled, in the end.

If anything, she should have taught Sebastian a lesson about girls who can't be played. That would have been interesting.
 
I watched the 2nd one and it totally sucked it was basically the exact same movie with other people I don't know why in the world they bothered to do that :irked:
 
No way! It's a discussion! This board is mostly about discussing movies/acting/filmmaking process, etc, instead of being biased all the time for or agaisnt something. :sigh: That's why I love it here.

We're not all film buffs and professional critics but we have opinions, and seeing as we ARE the people who go see the movies and pay for it, our opinions are worthy. :nod: Critics watch movies for free (most of them) and films buffs are that, film buffs. The rest of us have a fresh POV and our sensibilities aren't trained to see technicalities, we may noticed them but we won't get hung up on them.

Plus, if the title does not say "Appreciation Thread", it's fair game for everyone, which I actually prefer as long as the is banter friendly and respectful. :D
 
OMG this is one of my favorite movies of all time. Actually I like all of the orginals and the remake, Dangerous Liasons, Valmont, the orignal book that all of these movies are based on...I love them all!
 
I never saw the sequels and I think I didn't miss out on anything, because all the reviews were pretty bad. I just hate the idea of a sequel to that movie. :nono:
 
Cruel Intention is one of my favorite movie. Sarah Michelle Gellar was fantastic in there. Her stoic, evil face can sometimes look really scary. And it may sound weird, but her nose makes her look so cold, and arrogant that it just clicks right into her character.

Reese Witherspoon was also great as the naive Anette. Her resistance then later surrender is believable. She has always been such an amazing actress.

Ryan Phillippe, however sexy and so oh-my-god gorgeous he is, is not the brightest point of the movie. His acting is lacking to put Sebastian in to a high level. He just seems like a confused adolescent. But I like his chemistry with Reese. Because of this movie, I became the couple's fan. So, it's saying something.

Selma Blair, I think is also a gold in the movie. Her somewhat stupidity and annoying mind is, entertaining, for the lack of better word.

I think the ending, while not entirely perfect, is pretty nice. Good overcomes evil and everything. And I have to say Kathryn's IS realistic in meaning that her poker face fool everybody. She intensely want to be seen as an angel. And when suddenly the scandal broke, all her reputation collapses in front of her eyes. So, her breaking down is not exaggerated.

Ah, I miss watching CI. Gotta get the DVD sometime.
 
I was 15 when it came out and I was 16 when I watched it. ;) I remember because it was my birthday and I got sick at school (I have an odd string of birthday illnesses :lol: ) and I got home from school and I watched it.

I was really underwhelmed when I watched it. And I'll admit, I didn't want Annette's character to lose her virginity to Sebastian at all. That part always bugged me, still does. :look: I wanted her to be strong and teach him about love without sex. That love could be just as great and intense.

It would've been the true dichotomy of his life with Annette and his life before her.
 
It did!!! It's like you can listen to the songs on the soundtrack and pinpoint exactly what scene they are talking about and who they are talking about.
 
There were. But I can't remember them being in the cinema, so I guess they were so bad that they came straight to dvd.
 
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