Criticism of Seth MacFarlane

Thank you-religious bias is bad.

Another thing is when celebs "appear" on the show and they don't actually get the celeb to voice his animated likeness, their renditions of the celebs don't always sound like them.

Don Knotts appeared in a sketch and it sounded like him. Nathan Lane appearred in one and sounded nothing like him.

Some times when Macfarlane is voicing Stewie he gets lazy.
 
There are smart nerds and dumb nerds.

Peter Griffin is a dumb nerd. Lois is kind of nerdy but she has more sense than he does.

Stan Smith is a nerd who works for the CIA.

Cleveland is a nerd, that's why he hung out with Peter.

Stewie kind of fancies himself a ladies' man too-he's bisexual.
 
Actually, I'm really iffy about the Cleveland Show. I really don't think it's going to turn out well at all. Bears? Really?

But I think judging harshly it is counterproductive. Since, you know, it won't be airing for quite a while now.
 
None of those "points" are really valid or accurate. It sounds to me like you're just criticizing for the sake of criticizing. If you're going to state your opinions as facts, at least give examples of what lead you to said conclusions.

FTR, although the term "nerd' has come to describe a generally socially awkward person, I tend to take this definition of the word:

Therefore, Peter, Lois and Cleveland are not nerds, and your point is therefore invalid. Plus, The Cleveland Show hasn't even premiered yet, so we don't know enough about the 5-year-old to accurately declare him to be a clone of Stewie. They just share a similar character design.
 
What do American Dad and Family Guy have in common besides the structure of the family, the animation style, and the fact that they're both created by the same guy? Other than those three things, I consider them to be two completely different shows.

If you're going to criticize Seth MacFarlane because his shows have basic similarities, you might as well do the same for Bruce Timm, Genndy Tartakovsky, Tom Ruegger, and Mike Judge.
 
Wrong, from dictionary.com:

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This nerd Pronunciation[nurd] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun Slang. 1.a stupid, irritating, ineffectual, or unattractive person. 2.an intelligent but single-minded person obsessed with a nonsocial hobby or pursuit: a computer nerd.

Peter fits that description.
Lois fits more of the second.

Stan, Steve and Roger are nerds.

Cleveland is a nerd.
 
While I'm not really against FG or AD, those examples are a bit flawed in comparison.

Mike Judge:
- The animation of King Of The Hill isn't that similar to Beavis and Butthead, plus KOTH actually has moments of drama whereas Beavis and Butthead is pure comedy. One show centers around two MTV raised teens while the other is centered around a family.

Bruce Timm:
- The only thing his shows really have in common are the Superhero bit. For instance, Batman doesn't have a constant regular love interest and is pretty much street level crime whereas Superman dealing with some crime and universal planetary threats and has a regular love interest. Plus the Superman series is more optimistic while Batman is darker show.

Batman Beyond while having street level threats, the antagonists are fueled more by greed than insanity. The hero has a love interest who he is actually in a relationship with in his civilian life (whereas for the moment Lois is attracted to Superman rather than civilian Clark Kent). Plus Terry is still in school and has a mentor to shape him into a crime fighter where as the previous two have to rely on themselves.

Justice League is more of a team dynamic, and varies from street level threats to alien invasions. In the other shows, the majority of the cast are civilians while on the show it is an all hero cast.
 
Call Peter, Cleveland, Lois, Stan and Roger anything you want to call them. But the rest of us probably won't be calling them nerds any time soon for the simple fact that they aren't nerds. Your stretching a definition of the term to apply to characters that it clearly doesn't apply to.

Seriously, how are Lois and Stan Smith nerds?
 
Tiny Toon Adventures- Looney Tunes in training, what with the veterans running a cartoon course.

Freakazoid- Comedy Action series. With Freakazoid being a slapstick based super hero.

Pinky And The Brain- Comedic Duo with the whole Yin Yang aspect.

Animaniacs- To my understanding, and attempt at a show similar to the Looney Tunes Franchise by having seperate stories with different characters. And aside from some special, all segments remained seperate from one another.


To be fair, American Dad's characters do have a distinct personality which justifies the shows presense and The Cleveland Show might surprise us in that regard. The problem stems from the the fear that the audience will reject a show if it even remotely seems different, thus the appearance of the similar structure, where as the shows I mentioned the writers and crew pride themselves on diversity.
 
Has anyone noticed Seth's shows all follow the same formula-

Family Guy, American Dad and the upcoming Cleveland Show?

It's the same basic family structure:

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A lot of his criticism is crap.

What is this guy talking about? What about the Vaudeville guys? What about the chicken who gave Peter a bad coupon? What about greased-up-deaf guy? What about the pirate with four prosthetic legs? What about the interactions between Brian and Stewie? Or the episode where Peter beats up Lois because it makes Stewie laugh? I could go on, but there's no point, does this guy even watch Family Guy?

Oh, and the wife/daughter/son/weird neighbor/pet formula is as old as dirt. I agree that Seth really shouldn't be doing three shows at the same time, but to argue that they're the same because Seth loosely followed the classic sitcom form is just plain stupid. The character dynamics are entirely different between the two shows. What remains the same is Seth's style of humor. He hasn't been reusing any jokes. Criticizing Seth's style is one thing, but criticizing him for having that style is another.
 
Eh, I could easily see Stan of American Dad fighting the chicken instead of Peter.

The jokes are the same, even if not in the way he means. There's so many "remember the time when I--" jokes and so many pop culture jokes and so many jokes about how character X is stupid and/or outrageous that there isn't much room left for really substantial humor. I tend to agree with his final conclusion that Futurama, South Park (sometimes--it also has a lot of "stupid" humor), and good episodes of the Simpsons are on a different level.
 
Ugh, do you even watch Family Guy? How is Lois awkward and gawky? She's consistently depicted as being self-confident, intelligent, attractive, level-headed and the kind of woman anyone would love to be with. Show me a "nerd" with those kinds of qualities. Even Stan doesn't really fit the nerd stereotype. He's a hard-headed, gruff, ultra-conservative dumbass in a suit. Again, I don't really see anything nerdy about Stan.
 
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