SinDelle Morte
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Maybe some of you have heard of the "Baby P" case in the UK. If you haven't, google it but I will warn you: people have been VERY traumatized by it. There are even support groups for people who cannot get it out of their heads.
This child was systematically abused to death by the stepfather and died at age 17 months. He received over 50 injuries in 8 months, including having a Rottweiler repeatedly sicced on him to train the dog to attack and a broken spine which caused him to be paralyzed (this was never treated or even discovered until after he died), broken ribs, his fingernails pulled out with pliars and the tips of his fingers cut off. There was not one article of this child's clothing that did not have bloodstains on it. There were two others living in the house besides the mother who witnessed the abuse; the girlfriend of the "uncle" (one of these witnesses) testified in court to the absolute HELL this little baby endured every single day. The mother was not abused and in fact said, "I loved [the stepfather] and figured I'd just let him do what he wanted."
Now, this was in the UK. These people (the mother, the "stepfather" and the "uncle") were found NOT GUILTY of murder. Not only that, but their identities were protected by the court until recently. They are also going to be given new identities by the UK's government and money to start their lives over when they get out of jail. One of them is already out and only the "stepfather" is expected to do more than 5 years and only because he was given a life sentence for raping a two year old. The mother deliberately concealed the injuries to the child and was heard bragging that the social workers did not see them.
Could this ever happen here? What do you think is a fitting punishment for these people?
@Honestly: No one said they weren't convicted.
Sentencing for both trials together took place on 22 May 2009 at the Old Bailey. Connelly was ordered to be held indefinitely, until "deemed no longer to be a risk to the public and in particular to small children", with a minimum term of five years. Barker was sentenced to life imprisonment for the rape, with a minimum sentence of ten years, and a 12-year sentence for his role in the death of Peter, to run concurrently. Owen was also jailed indefinitely, and would serve at least three years.[23] The sentences were criticised as too lenient by the NSPCC's chief executive,[24] and the Attorney General considered referring them to the Court of Appeal for review,[25] but concluded there was "no realistic prospect" of the Court of Appeal increasing the sentences. The three appealed against their sentences,[26] Barker against both convictions and sentences.[27]
That is from Wikipedia. Barker is the stepfather.
He is the only one who got life. The uncle is ALREADY OUT.
This child was systematically abused to death by the stepfather and died at age 17 months. He received over 50 injuries in 8 months, including having a Rottweiler repeatedly sicced on him to train the dog to attack and a broken spine which caused him to be paralyzed (this was never treated or even discovered until after he died), broken ribs, his fingernails pulled out with pliars and the tips of his fingers cut off. There was not one article of this child's clothing that did not have bloodstains on it. There were two others living in the house besides the mother who witnessed the abuse; the girlfriend of the "uncle" (one of these witnesses) testified in court to the absolute HELL this little baby endured every single day. The mother was not abused and in fact said, "I loved [the stepfather] and figured I'd just let him do what he wanted."
Now, this was in the UK. These people (the mother, the "stepfather" and the "uncle") were found NOT GUILTY of murder. Not only that, but their identities were protected by the court until recently. They are also going to be given new identities by the UK's government and money to start their lives over when they get out of jail. One of them is already out and only the "stepfather" is expected to do more than 5 years and only because he was given a life sentence for raping a two year old. The mother deliberately concealed the injuries to the child and was heard bragging that the social workers did not see them.
Could this ever happen here? What do you think is a fitting punishment for these people?
@Honestly: No one said they weren't convicted.
Sentencing for both trials together took place on 22 May 2009 at the Old Bailey. Connelly was ordered to be held indefinitely, until "deemed no longer to be a risk to the public and in particular to small children", with a minimum term of five years. Barker was sentenced to life imprisonment for the rape, with a minimum sentence of ten years, and a 12-year sentence for his role in the death of Peter, to run concurrently. Owen was also jailed indefinitely, and would serve at least three years.[23] The sentences were criticised as too lenient by the NSPCC's chief executive,[24] and the Attorney General considered referring them to the Court of Appeal for review,[25] but concluded there was "no realistic prospect" of the Court of Appeal increasing the sentences. The three appealed against their sentences,[26] Barker against both convictions and sentences.[27]
That is from Wikipedia. Barker is the stepfather.
He is the only one who got life. The uncle is ALREADY OUT.