Could the iPhone be good news for Nokia fans in the US

Nokia's worldwide market share is 36% (give or take 3). With ALL cellphones. I believe Motorola and SE are fighting for #2, with Samsung and LG close 3rd and 4th (could be that Sammy and SE are swapped, I don't recall).

Point is, 1% of the worldwide market is a smart move. Why? It's not a threat to other manufacturers. Not as much as the other manufacturers that have been around. However, 1% they say is 10 million units. 10 million times $500 = 5,000,000,000 (I believe that's $5 billion). That's alot of money.
 
This is where....IMO.....the price erosion will start.

The initial release will be 'a limited sell' to s60 power users.....but not to the early adopters of the Razor, for example. They'll think it is the next best thing to sliced bread

But, the overall price of the iPhone will start to erode say 6-9 months after release, when Apple starts putting the 3g (and probably more, say video) technology into it. Christmas season 2007 sounds good for a new updated model...... and I don't think the size will decrease, as people will love the screen as they roll new capabilities to it. Apple/Cingular aren't stupid. They will incorporate new technology to the product line.

Everyone is forgetting Moore's law in this conversation!
 
This worldwide number will be an interesting thing to see in 2-3 years. I don't think Apple will anytime soon break into the top 3, but maybe the top 5-10?
 
N95 might be up there when price comes to mind but remember that iPhone is $599 on a two year contract with Cingular. Imagine how much it would cost just by itself.

Also, I think they're capitalizing on the whole "i" labeling. Mac/ipod is the hottest (may vary per personal preference) in the market. People who dont know jack about smartphones will grab it because of the name, second would be the camera (most asked question when people ask about my phone) and then the OS (for the real smartphone users). Its going to be a novelty for most just like the razs and sidekick. Hopefully its capabilities wont be overshadowed. But then again theres always a phone geek that will appreciate it.
They're (Mac/Cingy) really good with putting the word out there. Even my friends who has a Razr and an s710 excitedly reported to me about the announcement. Now my morning news is talking about it.
 
I don't think Nokia will open any more doors in the US unless:

a.) CDMA carriers don't dominate the top wireless spots (Verizon #2, Sprint/Nextel #3)
b.) Cingular starts playing friendly with them
 
Based on the keynote....it is aimed at those using BT HS (does have the A2DP support). That may help the size issue. The pics are somewhat deceiving. It's slightly smaller than the Motorola Q for example (based on the spec'd dimensions).

Also, it does run OS X.
 
That's right...it comes off as looking big because it's all screen. I'm certainly interested as a fan of technology first and Nokia 2nd....of course Nokia seems to come through with the most innovative stuff which is why I've alwasy been with them and probably always will.
 
I think shaolinmonk stated this in another thread (too many ithreads) but what good I see this doing for us Nokia and SE fans is that our "high end" devices might get pushed just a bit more. Nokia has way too much middle ground that works well to worry about one device, but with a new communicator around the corner and the stock they put into the N series already, they might up that side of the market to make sure they retain people.

I know the S60 die hards are pointing to the iphone and saying "this is not a smartphone, it's not a threat", but there are a lot of people who need more PIM functions than S40 can provide but don't use half of the power of S60. They are the people that love Sidekicks and maybe the olds chool / low end S60/UIQ phones. Those are the ones I think would defect to the iphone as this offers a phone that "might" be a bit smarter than S40, but not as complicated as S60 with full compatibility to their newly bought dual booting Macbook.

Between them and fanboys, I can see 1% being a realistic goal
 
While I agree with that statement I wonder if the IPOD name will be enough to force the masses to try and "learn" the iphone....or entice them enough I should say. I think overall it wont make Nokia a stronger force in the US....not as much as the N75 if 3g starts to soar because Nokia will have beaten Moto and SE to the punch in NA withh high speed.
 
No offense but North America is the only place where people actually spend time debation reception quality of phones. In fact the issue is that you are on a lower frequency (1900) and your phone companies do dont provide proper coverage for it.

But its laughable to debate reception quality of phones. With the same phone I have got a better signal while hiking in the boonies of Scandinavia than in many cities in the US. In other words, the phone is not the problem - its the network coverage.

So quit wasting time debating phone RF and start asking more from the cell phone providerts that are locking you into 2 year slave contracts!
 
Yes. RF is important here in US coz the country is huge.. and no network provider has towers all over the place. So.. even with little signal phone should work thats why we need RF sensitive phones which can pick up a call even in a weak signal area. So we are not wasting time on RF debate.
 
ya im so sorry that north america is the only place where we didnt have hundreds of years of wars to divide our countries into tiny little principalities that only require one cell phone tower on each end to cover sufficiently
so ya rf sensitivity does matter because companies cant afford to blanket the entire country in cell phone signal even though canada and the usa top the richest countries in the world list -- hell canada doesnt even have half of its landmass covered -- do you know how ridiculously insanely expensive itd be to cover it? whatd be the point? europe on the other hand is so cramped that you guys dont even understand the meaning of the word boonies because youre always only 5 miles away from the nearest city
in america and canada we have this thing called WIDE OPEN SPACE
heck, i know someone who just bought acres and acres of land out in one of the southwestern states for under 150 bucks AN ACRE thats how much space we have out here in canada and america
so please try to expand your eurocentric mind a little bit and think about the rest of the world -- isnt that what youre always telling us to do in america anyway? amazing how you guys dont seem to be able to practice what you preach
sorry for the rant all but imho his comment was just silly
 
Two frequency ranges, actually. 850MHz and 1900. Europe is 900MHz and 1800. From a frequency point of view, your assertion is a bit flawed.

I don't think debating the RF characteristics of a handset is laughable. Europe isn't perfect either. My time in London wasn't pain-free with respect to wireless use. (Not to mention the horrid food---but that's another discussion.)

The network and phone work together, so both aspects are important. Indeed, wireless carriers are hit and miss in quality in the U.S. The older networks that have been converted to GSM appear to have more issues than the ones that were designed with GSM in mind, from the ground up. Cingular has an issue with this in Los Angeles. We also have varying terrain that we must deal with.

I'm completely on-board with asking the providers to improve coverage---and they have. But they're not going to have a -30dB signal in every area of the country. So, it is necessary to find handsets that work in areas that might be hovering between -90 to -100dB.

By the way, it's not unusual that you would have better coverage in "the boonies." A city has all sorts of obstacles to block and reflect signals. In an open area, with a good tower (or set of towers), one will get better coverage. When I visit relatives in a rural area in the Midwest, I get a great signal from one tower that seems to service three counties. (I know there is more than one.) In cities, more towers are necessary to get the signal to the places where it is blocked---not to mention capacity.

Joel
 
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