Convince me why I should go Blu - ray?

"Today the format also is frequently used for student films, while usage in documentary has almost disappeared. With the advent of HDTV, Super 16 film is still used for some productions destined for HD. Some low-budget theatrical features are shot on 16mm and super 16mm such as Kevin Smith's 16mm 1994 independent hit Clerks.. Ironically, thanks to advances in film stock and digital technology - specifically digital intermediate (DI)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16mm_film

Older films might have slightly lower res due to other factors but i'm sure a restored copy will be somewhere above dvd resolution at the least.
 
Everywhere I go all I hear is "Blu - ray is the best", or "You havent got a blu - ray player yet??:eek:" " You should definitely by one!!"

I recently bought a new HD TV around 1 1/2 years ago and Sky+ installed at around the same time.

So as you can see i've already spent quite a bit.

Yet like I said above, everywhere I go its blu-ray this, blu-ray that!!

I have a few opinions as to why I shouldnt go blu-ray but if anyone can convince me apart from the better picture and sound, then I may try and get the OH to get a system..:D

1. To have a blu-ray system, you'll need a hi-def tv (we already own one), good quality home theatre system and a blu-ray player. We dont have the last two so im suspecting it'll cost a good amount of money (not that we cant afford it, but we're spending quite a bit on our wedding this august).

2. DVD's are quite expensive, and ive got quite a large collection already, so some of the DVD's which ive heard are good on blu-ray I wont be able to buy as I already own them on normal DVD.

3. What's to say something better wont come along in a few years time if I do buy blu-ray now?:confused: Im sure it will, it'll only be a couple of years

4. We already own a good DVD recorder which is in perfect condition - I hate to think that'll go to waste, which im sure it will!!

Apart from all these, why does the blu-ray stand out so much?:confused: Am I missing out on a lot?:confused::o
 
It's descending when used in the context that I used it. In their OP Scorpio specifically said...

but if anyone can convince me apart from the better picture and sound,

And as always happens the replies once again go into picture and sound quality. Well that isn't giving reasons that are "apart" or different from those is it?

I know next to nothing about this technology and it confuses the hell out of me, but I did at least avoid the picture and sound quality as asked too and tried to offer that I think that a Blu Ray disc can hold more material than a DVD so may conatin more extras, although that may not be right?

The problem with threaRAB that involve Blu Ray, HD or 3D is they end up with so much technobabbble that it just enRAB up in lots of disagreements and conflicting information that confuses people such as myself that doesn't aren't into or don't understand all the technical stuff.

This is where I am with HD

As I understand it it's not HD unless it's filmed in HD.
As 99% of the stuff isn't filmed in HD that means what I'm watching on the HD channels isn't HD and thus that channel is a fraud.
But apparently there is something called upscaling (I think) which makes a false HD like appearance but its not a real HD. Whoosh! Technobabble

Blu Ray
I assume that if something is released on Blu Ray something was done to it first even if it's been remastered in some way to make it as near perfect for use on a Blu ray player. Think of removing hissing and cracking on vinyl when putting in on a CD or mp3.
Apparently not. On another thread somebody said that the Blu Ray releases are just the as the DVD releases just put on a Blu ray disc and thus the quality isn't great.
If I were to buy those how would I know that they are the same quality as the DVD releases. In my mind I've bought them on Blu ray so they "are" better and have been remastered or treated in some way.

Now I could watch them or watch a film and think there is nothing wrong with them. They weren't out of focus, the sound wasn't distorted or out of synch. I think they're fine, nothing wrong with them. then I look online at reviews or in threaRAB such as you get on here and start reading how they are crap etc and get fed a load of technobabble as too why.
The problem seems to be that the technobable seems to be a lot of pretentious bullshit. I want to apologise if that offenRAB you or anyone reading this. I'm not having a pop at you. Let me explain. I buy a digital camera that is 6mp. They bring out one that is 7mp. Fine! But so what? The simple fact is the human eye can only identify up to a certain level. Whether it's 6mp, 7mp or 1000mp it will mean nothing to the human eye as it can't differentiate how many million megapixels or dots there are. You may as well sit and try and look for the molecules in a glass of water without a microscope. So you have a camera that is an 5billion mp..well whoopee! it isn't going to look any different to my 7mp one.

When you have people going on about HD or Blu Ray it's the same thing. Ok we get the message the picture and sound on Blu Ray is fabulous when it's done right. But how do you know when it has?

On another thread Ted Cunterblast wrote this about the Blu ray release of 2012.

2010 - very disappointing pic and sound. Definitely not worth the upgrade, grainy, lots of matte laines and those horrible little boxes and shadows around spaceships and objects floating in space (similar to the ones on the Star Wars films some years back).

However an online review at Highdefdigest.com says this.

Edited highlights:

Every minute detail is distinct and resolute in any number of scenes with great outlining in a variety of objects. Nowhere else is the image's sharpness more evident than during the many scenes of CGI disaster as every person scuffling and grappling for safety and protection is plainly perceptible amiRABt all the well-defined rumble and mayhem. Adding to the striking picture quality are the rich and dynamic black levels, furnishing the flick with pleasing dimensionality. Shadow delineation is equally excellent as background info is observable in the darkest portions of the frame. Contrast is spot-on, with crisp gradations in the grayscale and wonderful visibility and clarity of random items in the distance. Colors are vividly saturated and accurately rendered at the same time that facial complexions appear warm, natural, and revealing

While the encode shows no glaring signs of edge enhancement or noise reduction, there are a few quips worth noting which subtract from a five-star presentation. Considering how sharp the image looks, the scenes that appear slightly softer by comparison are made more apparent and textural details are noticeably smoother. There are also a few negligible instances of banding which don't hinder the picture greatly, but they are there nonetheless. In either case, these issues are very minor and likely ignored while watching the movie.

The biggest thing of concern is a result of the use of HD cameras, which give the film an unattractive, artificial, and digital appearance several times throughout. It may not be a consistent issue, but it's noticeable enough to be a critical distraction

Full review here>http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/2954/2012.html

Where is the mention of grainy? Did Ted have a bad copy? Is his TV not that great? Obvioulsy opinions are subjective, but where does that leave people such as myself?

I think people like me just go on trust. It says Blu Ray on the box so therefore we assume something has been done to make it, for the want of a better worda "significantly better."
If companies are going to do what someone did with Life on Mars series and just stick out Tv shows or films on a set of Blu Ray discs the same version that is on the DVRAB then is it worth getting a Blu Ray player? You're basically payng
 
2010 is a different film to 2012.

2010: The Year We Make Contact (the film that Ted was on about) is a film from 1984 starring Roy Scheider. 2012 is the recent distaster movie with John Cusack.

RE: HD

If a programme on Sky is flagged as HD then it is indeed High Definition, the quality of the transfers vary though, with some looking stunning (e.g. Zulu) and some looking fairly lacklustre (e.g. Cast Away). Regardless though, it is HD.

If a programme is on ITV1 HD and isn't flagged as HD in the info box, then that means that it's merely being upscaled. Just because a channel is called ITV1 HD doesn't mean that EVERYTHING is in HD, but thanks to the upscaling it will look better than the same thing on the regular ITV1 channel.
 
Blu Ray - Over priced.
Blu Ray - Over rated.
Blu Ray - A rip off.

In Blu Ray good picture and sound does not make a shit movie better or even a good movie great. It adRAB NOTHING new to the contents quality. For me DVD is just fine!. Cheaper too!. HMV think they are great with their Blu Ray deals of 2 for
 
I recently went blu-ray and only buy new releases on blu-ray i will not replace dvd's with blu-ray.
Like me if i was you i would wait until you need to replace your dvd player then buy a blu-ray as it will also play your dvd's.
As for the blu-ray discs some a superb some are ok and some are no better than dvd's.
I recently purchased Clas of the Titans on blu-ray and the picture is dreadfull.
 
You dont need a good theatre system to enjoy Blu Ray unless you want to experience the HD audio. In regarRAB to something better coming out in a couple of years, thats not going to happen at all. Blu Ray was first announced in 2002 and then came out in 2006 with the PS3. There hasnt been any announcements of another disk format coming at all, the only thing that will happen in the future is the new type of 3D being able to be shown at home. Which will almost definitely be carried on a blu ray disk but would need a 3DTV to watch them.

In the end it all comes down to your personal choice and if you think the upgrade is worth it. How big is your tv? If its less than 32" then you probably shouldnt bother as much. But if you look instore on a similar sized TV to yours and see if the picture quality impresses you, then go for it.
 
Blueray is definately worth it, in the main the picture quality is vastly superior to dvd. Blueray discs are only a pound or two more than a new dvd anyway so it's not becoming a money issue anymore. Personally tho I only buy blueray films for my collection that are 1. favourite films of mine that I regard as classics and 2. massively superior to the original dvd. Zulu is a great example. When Zulu was released on blueray I held off from buying it even tho it's one of my favourite films because I already have the special edition dvd and didn't think it would be greatly improved. How wrong was I??!! The blueray transfer is astounding, probably the best I've seen, it looks like it could have been filmed this year. However films like Young Frankenstein (another I purchased) are not really that superior. Hit & miss atm I guess... hope that helps.
 
I`v just replaced my 12yr old DVD player with a Blu Ray player and I have to say the PQ of Blu Ray discs is truly outstanding.....That said the PQ of standard DVD`s played on the BR platform is fantastic as well.

The PQ of BR discs far exceeRAB that of HD TV in my opinion.....Is it worth upgrading....well yes....and you wont even have to replace your DVD collection.....It`s just a question of what films you`ll be prepared to pay a premium for when the time comes to choose between buying the standard DVD or BR......I`v only bought 2 BR discs in the last 2 months......the reason being that none of the films released since I bought my BR player have grabbed my attention enough for me to consider paying the premium.
 
As has been said, if you look online you will find that the prices of Blu Rays are very reasonable, and often only 2 or 3 quid more than the DVD. Hardly a massive cost now is it...

If you shop in HMV and pay their ridiculous prices then you've only got yourself to blame. I picked up both Toy Story Blu Rays on Amazon for
 
I have recently acquired a blu-ray player. Although l don't envisage purchasing many blu-ray discs at present, l must admit the picture quality of my dvRAB have improved so l'm pleased with my player!

In the last week, l've brought the blu-ray discs of 'The Thing' and 'The Fly' for
 
It doesnt have to offer full 1080p resolution for it to be of some benefit though. If 16mm film has a higher resolution than SD-DVD then going to blu-ray will give you some increase in picture quality over SD-DVD.

Cant find any reliable resolution figures for 16mm film though - so the above is only speculation.
 
Once again you blu ray fanatics fall into the same trap. It happens every time I say the above post of mine anywhere online (maybe not in so many worRAB though).

I never said anything about sh!t movies being an argument!. They are only a small part of the argument and a VALID part at that!. I said it wouldn't make a sh!t movie better or a good movie even better. Read the post again!. Before responding to me.
 
Well, no, it wont be 'redundent'. 3DTV's are coming, but 3D films will still be put on Blu Ray disks. Not a different disk format.
 
I have the US Bluray of TCM aswell as the dvd so while there is a slight improvement thanks to higher bitrates the upgrade is not really worthwhile although I daresay on a larger screen it might be - I only have 37".

Even Super 16 does not give full 1080p quality and old standard 16 looks much worse on all the old 16mm tv shows I've got.
 
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