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Comparing Italy
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gutz_otoole
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Janet wrote:
In ranking that are distorted by a political agenda.
Another distorted comment. Scotland does not have anything resembling a
"remote area" as they exist in the US, all of Scotland is smaller than
Rhode Island in the US.
In ranking that are distorted by a political agenda.
Another distorted comment. Scotland does not have anything resembling a
"remote area" as they exist in the US, all of Scotland is smaller than
Rhode Island in the US.
JodieRachael
New member
"Giusi" wrote
My wife has no income. Would that still be 7.5% of my income for both of
us? If so, it is cheaper that what I pay privately, just a tad more than
what I pay (for one) on Medicare with a good supplement.
We have a couple of problems here. We don't want a single payer system, we
don't want to give "free" care to those that cannot afford it, yet we are
doing that with very high premiums and medical cost making up for those that
don't or can't pay.
My wife has no income. Would that still be 7.5% of my income for both of
us? If so, it is cheaper that what I pay privately, just a tad more than
what I pay (for one) on Medicare with a good supplement.
We have a couple of problems here. We don't want a single payer system, we
don't want to give "free" care to those that cannot afford it, yet we are
doing that with very high premiums and medical cost making up for those that
don't or can't pay.
"Pete C." wrote in
news:[email protected]:
Boy, you do love your propaganda, don't you. It makes you look
gullible.
--
The Bible! Because all the works of science cannot equal the
wisdom of cattle-sacrificing primitives who thought every
animal species in the world lived within walking distance of
Noah's house.
news:[email protected]:
Boy, you do love your propaganda, don't you. It makes you look
gullible.
--
The Bible! Because all the works of science cannot equal the
wisdom of cattle-sacrificing primitives who thought every
animal species in the world lived within walking distance of
Noah's house.
ticked off
New member
On Apr 18, 12:06?pm, "Pete C." wrote:
Plenty of Americans routinely come to Minnesota to get health care
they can't get in, say Ohio. This is because the Mayo Clinic is
located in Minnesota. Plenty of other Americans routinely come to
Tennessee to get health care they can't get in say, Iowa. This is
because St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital is located in
Tennessee. This doesn't mean that the health care systems in Ohio or
Iowa are insufficient -- it means that certain health problems are
best treated at hospitals that specialize in that sort of care.
Let's see some, then. The alleged Canadian cases usually vanish under
scrutiny.
You're happy to pay 50% more for the same outcome as the average
European? What is wrong with you?
Plenty of Americans routinely come to Minnesota to get health care
they can't get in, say Ohio. This is because the Mayo Clinic is
located in Minnesota. Plenty of other Americans routinely come to
Tennessee to get health care they can't get in say, Iowa. This is
because St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital is located in
Tennessee. This doesn't mean that the health care systems in Ohio or
Iowa are insufficient -- it means that certain health problems are
best treated at hospitals that specialize in that sort of care.
Let's see some, then. The alleged Canadian cases usually vanish under
scrutiny.
You're happy to pay 50% more for the same outcome as the average
European? What is wrong with you?
juliengoodman
New member
In article ,
Janet wrote:
It might not be a coincidence. We posted our birth story online and
it is linked to in many support groups. We've had several people from
all over the world e-mail us that they were naming their son after (or
partly after) him. The costs above included the doctors for the
surgeries, btw.
Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits
"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
Janet wrote:
It might not be a coincidence. We posted our birth story online and
it is linked to in many support groups. We've had several people from
all over the world e-mail us that they were naming their son after (or
partly after) him. The costs above included the doctors for the
surgeries, btw.
Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits
"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13
http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
Fuzzy Squirrel
New member
In article ,
"Pete C." wrote:
The other thing that I have sometimes noted, is that the young and
healthy who choose not to have health insurance, have also sometimes
chosen not to have children or others they are responsible for, at least
right then, and have chosen not to invest in valuable assets. In short,
when a medical crisis hits, they just file for bankruptcy. They have
nothing to lose except their debt.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
"Pete C." wrote:
The other thing that I have sometimes noted, is that the young and
healthy who choose not to have health insurance, have also sometimes
chosen not to have children or others they are responsible for, at least
right then, and have chosen not to invest in valuable assets. In short,
when a medical crisis hits, they just file for bankruptcy. They have
nothing to lose except their debt.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
rexymeteorite
New member
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:41:43 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
wrote:
She'll be getting SSI (welfare by another name).
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
wrote:
She'll be getting SSI (welfare by another name).
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
\m/ (>.<) \m/
New member
On 4/16/2011 12:35 AM, Giusi wrote:
They had never seen a pump. That was made clear by the interpreter. I
gave then the phone number for Medronic, the pump's manufacturer, in
Milan. They refused to call.
Because he was in "intensive care" I was only allowed to spend 30
minutes with him once per day. On his last day, I came with a box of
chocolates and a big package of cookies or the staff. They let me stay
longer. First thing that came to my mind was the stories the WW2
soldiers told of giving our Hershey bars
I don't speak Italian and I was not permitted to stay with him longer
than 30 minutes one time per day. You can only imagine my frustration.
Giusi, I could not sit by. No one was permitted in that ward unless it
was the regular visiting schedule. Even my interpreter wasn't permitted
in. They had the door locked.
If you knocked, an attendant might or might not come to the door, but
NO ONE was getting in off the schedule.
Perhaps in Rome or Milan but definitely not in Palermo. There is no way,
having lived through that event, I would trade the US system, flawed
though it is, for what I experienced in Palermo.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
They had never seen a pump. That was made clear by the interpreter. I
gave then the phone number for Medronic, the pump's manufacturer, in
Milan. They refused to call.
Because he was in "intensive care" I was only allowed to spend 30
minutes with him once per day. On his last day, I came with a box of
chocolates and a big package of cookies or the staff. They let me stay
longer. First thing that came to my mind was the stories the WW2
soldiers told of giving our Hershey bars
I don't speak Italian and I was not permitted to stay with him longer
than 30 minutes one time per day. You can only imagine my frustration.
Giusi, I could not sit by. No one was permitted in that ward unless it
was the regular visiting schedule. Even my interpreter wasn't permitted
in. They had the door locked.
If you knocked, an attendant might or might not come to the door, but
NO ONE was getting in off the schedule.
Perhaps in Rome or Milan but definitely not in Palermo. There is no way,
having lived through that event, I would trade the US system, flawed
though it is, for what I experienced in Palermo.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
carverbrittanys
New member
"Ran?e at Arabian Knits" ha scritto nel messaggio
Not all health systems are run on tax. Ours is not. Vilco can answer tax
questions better than I. Both retirement and health insurance are separate
payments that may or may not be partially paid by an employer. You don't
pay, you are out of the system, but you must buy a different coverage. The
only way a single risk program can work is if healthy young people and aging
people with advancing problems share in the same risk pool. You spread out
big ticket illnesses over the entire population.
Not all health systems are run on tax. Ours is not. Vilco can answer tax
questions better than I. Both retirement and health insurance are separate
payments that may or may not be partially paid by an employer. You don't
pay, you are out of the system, but you must buy a different coverage. The
only way a single risk program can work is if healthy young people and aging
people with advancing problems share in the same risk pool. You spread out
big ticket illnesses over the entire population.
Chris la Chat
New member
On 4/16/2011 7:39 AM, Janet wrote:
The $1,000,000 was *only* for the medical evacuation. There were other
amounts for coverage of bills, repatriation of remains, trip
interruption, etc.
I do know that it would have cost the insurance company quite a lot to
put him in the air ambulance and get him back to Texas, but that's what
we paid the premium for. That policy was definitely not cheap and we
thought we'd purchased a good plan from a highly reputable company. My
experience with them was that they were reluctant to spend the money on
the service we had contracted for.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
The $1,000,000 was *only* for the medical evacuation. There were other
amounts for coverage of bills, repatriation of remains, trip
interruption, etc.
I do know that it would have cost the insurance company quite a lot to
put him in the air ambulance and get him back to Texas, but that's what
we paid the premium for. That policy was definitely not cheap and we
thought we'd purchased a good plan from a highly reputable company. My
experience with them was that they were reluctant to spend the money on
the service we had contracted for.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
nighttrain57
New member
In article , [email protected] says...
Well, that makes sense ( I was wondering if the name was a rare as the
disorder). This one was a third child born in 2003, after two girls.
http://www.sctsurvivor.com/sctpregnancy.htm
Janet
Well, that makes sense ( I was wondering if the name was a rare as the
disorder). This one was a third child born in 2003, after two girls.
http://www.sctsurvivor.com/sctpregnancy.htm
Janet
Silas Ibrahimovic
New member
"Pete C." ha scritto nel messaggio
news:[email protected]...
You're wrong and ignorant. I have lived with this system for over 10 years.
Previous to that I had health insurance and all the panoply of health care
available in Washington, DC.
Palermo is not typical of Italy in any way at all.
news:[email protected]...
You're wrong and ignorant. I have lived with this system for over 10 years.
Previous to that I had health insurance and all the panoply of health care
available in Washington, DC.
Palermo is not typical of Italy in any way at all.
Hillbillee
New member
In article ,
[email protected] says...
by a "slight" magnitude of 10.
OK. So you knew nothing about Scotland's size OR how remote parts of it
are.
Janet
[email protected] says...
by a "slight" magnitude of 10.
OK. So you knew nothing about Scotland's size OR how remote parts of it
are.
Janet
kynshiro99
New member
"Janet Wilder" ha scritto nel messaggio
, Giusi wrote:
Did they think he might be infectious? The behaviors are otherwise strange.
Palermo is to Rome or Milan as Tijuana is to San Francisco. Avoid it unless
you feel well and lucky.
, Giusi wrote:
Did they think he might be infectious? The behaviors are otherwise strange.
Palermo is to Rome or Milan as Tijuana is to San Francisco. Avoid it unless
you feel well and lucky.