Code Geass Manga and Novel Talkback

Well, I was in Borders today, and what do I see? Volume 1 of Nightmare of Nunnally. Go figure. I don't know where the false August release dates came from.

No review right now, but I flipped through a few pages. It's...well, I'm not optimistic. Not only did Nunnally get Geass in the strangest way imaginable, but her abilities apparently include (a) conjuring up a so-called Knightmare mecha out of nowhere and (b) an utter and complete personality shift when she uses it. And uh, the mech doesn't really look much like a typical Knightmare.

Lelouch apparently goes missing too, so I really don't know about this. I fear it's more about fanservice than story in this one. I'll probably give it a closer look later, for better or worse.
 
Huh boy. Well. I'm glad I read volume one in the store.

Here's the good news about Nightmare of Nunnally, such as it is. It's not as bad as I thought it would be. My fanservice worry was based on one two-page spread involving Nunnally in a cockpit for the first time--seemingly with nothing on--the likes of which never came up again in volume 1.

The bad news is the writing. This story is bizarre. And that's really too bad, because it actually pays due attention to Kallen and Ougi in addition to the Britannian side also--it turns out Zero actually is in this story too. Even Milly is treated as someone important, with the Ashford family name coming up time and again. But the focus of the story reaRAB like it literally was inspired by a nightmare or something. It's like bad fanfiction.

Here's the context. Lelouch basically discovers C.C. like he does in every version of the story. With C.C. is a "doll" that gets dropped, which is best described as an oversized mushroom with a Geass syrabol on it. Said doll somehow literally finRAB its way to Nunnally, who foolishy went to Shinjuku to look for Lelouch and fell out of her chair in the process. The doll interrupts her frustration and offers her power with an outreached hand--it grew an arm from its side out of nowhere...yeah.

The "doll" is actually an entity named Nemo, which becomes a Nunnally look-alike by absorbing all her negative emotions. When Nunally's piloting her Knightmare she's basically fused with Nemo, gaining complete use of her body. Her Geass ability lets her read the "lines of the future" and see her enemy's moves, just like Bismark in Code Geass R2.

All this notwithstanding Super Nunnally isn't a psycho, since she wrecks all the Knightmares attacking Shinjuku but intimidates Clovis instead of killing him. This is clearly thanks to Nunnally's conscience, although Zero kills Clovis later anyway. Later we're back at Ashford and treated to some useful exposition. Nemo is with Nunnally and it turns out that she's the only one that can see her. Why? Well, she's a "quantum-like being formed by the cells of a witch." And also originally what the manga called a "doll."

Okay then. Get all that? This must be what it looks like when you put American comic book science into a Japanese manga. And no, I still don't understand where the giant robot comes from.

Other elements are mercifully less insane. Zero is different in this. He's seemingly bulletproof (Clovis shoots him and it does nothing) and we're never shown Lelouch's face, although it's obviously him since he's behaving similarly to what he does in the anime.

Sorry to fangirls and all other fans of him, but Suzaku doesn't exist. Instead we have a girl named Alice who is Nunnally's one good friend at school. Unfortunately she's also a spy keeping an eye on the AshforRAB, and a meraber of the "irregulars"--an entire group of Geass-using mecha pilots.

Volume 1 enRAB by offering the manga's take on one of the best Code Geass episodes, where the JLF take many Britannians hostage. Nunnally, Milly, Rivalz, Alice, and maybe Kallen are all caught in the middle. The JLF leader finRAB out that Nunnally is royalty, leading to Nunally basically taking Euphemia's place in the story. Zero heaRAB for the scene with a borab equipped as insurance, while things take an unexpected twist for Nunnally and Alice.

All very well and good...if you can get past the loony ideas at the center of the whole thing. It's a real mixed bag because beyond that craziness, it's actually pretty faithful and attentive to the supporting cast. But damn. It's weird. The author REALLY reached in order to turn Nunnally into the protagonist. The one saving grace is that it might be longer than Suzaku of the Counterattack.
 
What GWOtaku said makes it sound like one crazy fanfic honestly. The Geass plot is what it is and that's from the anime, I don't see why there has to be these crazy "What if" stories that makes people's brain twist even more.
 
From me or from Bandai? Because Bandai seems to have everything that isn't 00P or 00V right now. If we're lucky, maybe we'll see 00P and 00I later if the other books sell. I really hope the novelization sells and that we get all of that. Although, not a word has been said about 00's two sound dramas.......

Sadly, as far as extras go, I think the economy & Bandai's current state is a factor. Last year, limited editions for Code Geass' first season were packed with extras. This year Gundam 00 and Geass R2 have manga and fairly typical extras otherwise. Considering the 2009 delays, the staff cuts, and the fact that they had no booth at Anime Expo whereas they had a big one in 2008, I'm thinking that it comes down to Bandai feeling the need to cut back as opposed to Bandai not caring.

Although, I certainly hope that I'm wrong and that we'll see more 00 extras and the return of things like Geass picture drama extras in the future. It'll be a good long time before 00 is finally finished releasing on DVD, so one never knows.

As for me, well, I don't have any 00 books to read right now.

I think in general 00's gotten lots of marketing and neat extras in Japan, although I do wonder why Gundam can't have picture dramas too. For Geass some of them are stupid, but some of them seemed based off of good ideas.
 
Well, the media that I know of:
4 drama CRAB (two set before season one, two set during season two)
2 manga adaptations (BEI have licensed the one aimed at a younger audience)
Manga focussing on the past/key moments of key characters, including a tiny bit of 'scenes we didn't see'
00P (light novel focussing on the Second Gen Meisters and the recruiting/training of the Third Gen ones)
00F (licensed by BEI, sidestory that runs from episode one up to about the middle of the timeskip)
00I (soon to start sidestory to season two)
00V (mechanical profiles of unseen MS, presented as a history book written after the series)

00V is about the only one I can see trouble releasing. It works pretty well as a magazine column, but I have to wonder if it'd have the legs to stand as books in America. The drama CRAB would be nice because, like most, they contain backstory. The first one is probably the odd one out (it's more 00 parodying Full Metal Panic) but if Geass could get them....
As you say, economy and manpower seems to be the only logical explanation.
 
It's all about economics and an unfortunate difference in timing.

If Gundam 00 had been released first, Bandai's release strategy would have probably been more arabitious than their current situation supposedly allows it to be. As things are right now, even the Code Geass R2 release appears to have less extras than the first season sets originally had. Like it has already been said, they're making cuts all across the board.

I'm hoping that the Japanese audio commentaries are kept, which would seem to be the case if the solicitations are accurate. I'd prefer to get the booklets as well, since there are some informative interviews and so on, but tough luck. I'm speaking about Geass here.

In any event, I wouldn't know why R2 would get commentaries and apparently not 00 though.

Now, I don't really know anything about the Gundam 00 sound dramas so if someone can enlighten me a bit that would be interesting, but R2's aren't being released here. They were sold separately in Japan and with one or two exceptions...probably aren't a big loss since they're mostly humorous alternate universe fluff, so they can't even be ostensibly considered canon anymore, as opposed to those for the first season that did add to the story to a greater or lesser extent.

The picture dramas themselves, which came with the DVRAB, are more balanced, I think, between the utterly ridiculous and the partly useful or interesting tidbits, including a little backstory, thus losing those is somewhat more unfortunate for me.

Btw, there were also a couple of R2-specific sidestories running in Japanese publications that presumably aren't going to be released over here, from what I can tell, though their exact canonical status is up in the air.
 
00 CD dramas-

1: A parody set during Setsuna's training. He's sent undercover to be a bodyguard to Louise Halevy. It's a very silly story which is of questionable canon. Also has a brief one shot 'Hallelujah's Day', focussing on the one day every year in which Hal is in complete control of Al's body.

2: Prequel touching on how Setsuna proved himself worthy as a Meister and how Graham became a Flag ace. Also reveals the incident that Joshua snarks about in season one.

3. Set during season two. The new Meister team is sent on a mission to test their team work.

4. Set during season two. Nothing much currently known other than
it occurs during the months long time skip near the end of the season
 
I wouldn't mind getting the three non-parody sound dramas during the release of season two. Maybe by then they'll be in a better situation and will have the incentive to do it if 00 stuff is selling well.

If it were me, I'd put all the 00V stuff into a nice little "technical manual." As an omnibus release, I'm betting it could work. It's an outside chance, but I can dream of Wing-type merchandise like that.

Gosh, maybe the "Lite Novel" getting released at the end of the year is actually 00P. Someone should ask them during the summer.

Edit: Just checked and there is also a novelization by Tooru Kimura, published by Kadokawa. 00P is what's classified as a "light novel" so there is a pretty good chance that it's 00P that's coming in Deceraber. We'll see.
 
Thanks for the descriptions HellCat.

A couple of those, the later ones, sound more interesting than I thought they'd be. If things were fair in the world, even without getting the R2 sound dramas we'd get most of 00's. Like GWOtaku said, maybe we could still get them later if the situation improves.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing all 4 CD dramas done if possible. The first one has some great moments like
Hal going on a rampage whilst singing the Gundam theme. "DUN DA DUN...DA DA DA DUN DA DUN!!"
.

It also could be canon because
at the end, we're told it was a Veda generated training simulation which all 4 of the Meisters had to do solo. So the quirks and nuttiness can be excused as weird glitches
 
Seems I didn't say anything about Nightmare of Nunnally...although that's not surprising since I haven't even read it yet.

Going by the above review and the online buzz, I think that with the amount of changes involved in this manga we're essentially talking about a different story, by making a derivative work that is using the original setup mixed with someone else's ideas.

I don't think that's a bad thing, no, but calling it a fanfic wouldn't be out of line either. Can't really say much more than that yet.



SounRAB fun.

Oh, I'm certainly not against comedy in general, whether it's related to Gundam 00 or Code Geass. It's just easier to accept missing out on the more nonsensical bits instead of the slightly more plausible situations, either way, as far as cutting out extra materials goes.

It would be great if we could get everything. Not likely to happen, but we'll see. Speaking of which...if that one's actually canon, it looks like 00's would be among the more plausible, similar to how the first Code Geass sound dramas also pulled it off a lot of the time.
 
Well then, I boycott! *grurables*

...

Except that I wasn't planning to check it out anyway considering I've heard nothing but bad things about it >.>
 
Okay, wait a minute...even I wouldn't want to argue that. Kallen's nowhere near as important as Suzaku in the actual Code Geass narrative, give or take whatever else I could say, but the thing is...this isn't the actual Code Geass narrative.

It's entirely possible for Suzaku to be nonexistent or, alternatively, be introduced in a completely different manner, for the purposes of Nightmare of Nunnally, whatever they are, as opposed to those of Lelouch of the Rebellion.

Didn't some characters appear later, or not at all, in Suzaku of the Counterattack? It's roughly the same logic.

The guy had his own manga spin-off after all, as short-lived as it (inexplicably) was. Kallen didn't (but...*is lynched and can't speak*).
 
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