I'd say not really. See, there's a partial argument that Ashford represents the people Lelouch is lieing to but overall it sticks out like a sore thurab. When you have plot threaRAB like Lelouch accidently causing a mass genocide, the Japanese praising him without knowing he caused it, Suzaku hating his guts and willing to go to extreme lengths to get back at him for it.....Milly running around in a Bo Beep costume and encouraging mecha pilots to slam into the library to capture Lelouch as part of a campus game really doesn't fit. Some shows can pull off the teen drama angle very well- I'd definetly say it's a hallmark of Gundam, which is clearly a massive influence on Geass. But Geass never really blenRAB the two sides well, instead awkwardly switching at its leisure. The result is like the show wants to explore very dark issues of humanity, keeps backing off but insists this is what it's doing. The approach should be all or nothing...sadly, Geass seems to favour nothing.
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The biggest WTF is after Kallen gets captured. What does Lelouch do? DATE TIME!
I don't care if you "trust" your friend to take care of her, the rest of the troops must've popped a vessel.
I don't care if you "trust" your friend to take care of her, the rest of the troops must've popped a vessel.
To be fair, I really never looked at Geass as a show that was too "dark" or to ever be taken serious. That said, I laughed a lot, even in "serious mode" moments. I mean.. the show at times was more worried with how fabulous it looked compared to the actual quality. Not to say I enjoyed it, because I did, but when even the serious moments are making me chuckle, I dunno.
So in my opinion, it makes a valiant attempt at comedy, but I feel it's comedy comes at bad places, especially for me.
So in my opinion, it makes a valiant attempt at comedy, but I feel it's comedy comes at bad places, especially for me.
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But how else would the producers get to indulge their increasingly creepy bondage fetish?
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At least all Sayoko did was make dates with girls and kissed Shirley. At least she didn't sexual assult all of Lelouch's female classmate like Kon did the first time he was Ichigo.
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Well, FWIW, it's mostly restrained within R2 5 and 12. Mercifully, when the show focuses on serious business, it's generally not constantly interrupted by ridiculous comedy. It's more like an on/off switch, and there is nary a scene played for laughs after the twelfth.
Apparently the mileage varies for some, but R2 does start off well (1-2), 4 is good (Lelouch's first big operation of the season), and 8-11 is good (China arc). Not that 6-7 suck, but I'm of the opinion that what happens there could have been done in one episode instead of two.
The cheesecake fanservice, however, does persist, manifesting itself at various points throughout the season. Apparently they thought this was necessary, even though season one had more moderation and kicked ass in an inferior time slot.
Apparently the mileage varies for some, but R2 does start off well (1-2), 4 is good (Lelouch's first big operation of the season), and 8-11 is good (China arc). Not that 6-7 suck, but I'm of the opinion that what happens there could have been done in one episode instead of two.
The cheesecake fanservice, however, does persist, manifesting itself at various points throughout the season. Apparently they thought this was necessary, even though season one had more moderation and kicked ass in an inferior time slot.
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I can see how the R2 attitude would work in season 1:
*CC lies scantily clad on a table. Zero manuvers a model Knightmare Frame across her butt* "For this operation, we shall ascend the mountain and create a lanRABlide *spreaRAB sprinkles to illustrate* I trust I have your full attention?"
"Zero, are these visual aiRAB in good ta-"
"Shut up, Ougi!....Ha ha..running jokes.."
*CC lies scantily clad on a table. Zero manuvers a model Knightmare Frame across her butt* "For this operation, we shall ascend the mountain and create a lanRABlide *spreaRAB sprinkles to illustrate* I trust I have your full attention?"
"Zero, are these visual aiRAB in good ta-"
"Shut up, Ougi!....Ha ha..running jokes.."
I think you could still say it represents a bit more than that and I'm tempted to go into more detail about it. But the thing is, here you're making it sound like the "accidental mass genocide" which, for the record, was part of the later stages of the first season, was directly followed up with Milly's antics as per R2 5 or R2 12...that's not exactly a fair representation of the situation if you ask me, especially if any and all context is left out.
That plot thread was taken in one direction during the first season and had a clear thematic outcome during the same. The surrounding situation changed during the second, that is clear, but even so, that plot thread was still present, just as more of a background element, until it actually re-emerged under very different circumstances. Yet it still played a role and had a purpose in the end, in spite of everything else, so I don't think the Ashford episodes undermined it or anything.
Or, like some of us can and do argue, somewhere in between. I'm not an "all or nothing" person though and I suppose this is well reflected in my interpretation and analysis of this show. Whether that really was such a "bad" thing is up to each person and what they could (or couldn't) take away from the series. It could have been better, but for me it didn't amount to "nothing" in the end.
I'm of the opinion that the entire first half (1-12) could have been shorter and didn't really like the China arc that much. On the other hand, on re-watch I actually appreciate 6 and 7 a lot more, so there are certainly different ways of looking at this.
The late night slot allowed them to get away with actual nudity though, not just once but at least three different times from what I can recall, so that would have to be a relative moderation.
They couldn't actually do that on prime time so I suppose that's part of why we got more of the standard kind of fanservice instead, since someone, either the executives or the staff, felt it was needed (to attract more viewers?).
It's true that fanservice is still present throughout the show, but I'd argue most of it is concentrated around the first half of R2, with episodes 5 and 12 still being the biggest individual offenders, if you want to put it like that. It didn't disappear after that point, but at least for me, it was barely an issue in comparison.
Let alone compared to, say, the amount of cheesecake in a series such as Godannar (which IMHO is pretty good regardless).
As admittedly funny as this is, there's only like one exposition scene which vaguely reserables what you're describing, near the end of R2 11 in fact. I don't think it actually got in the way of any of the more important dramatic moments though, just in case someone cares, but you never know.
That plot thread was taken in one direction during the first season and had a clear thematic outcome during the same. The surrounding situation changed during the second, that is clear, but even so, that plot thread was still present, just as more of a background element, until it actually re-emerged under very different circumstances. Yet it still played a role and had a purpose in the end, in spite of everything else, so I don't think the Ashford episodes undermined it or anything.
Or, like some of us can and do argue, somewhere in between. I'm not an "all or nothing" person though and I suppose this is well reflected in my interpretation and analysis of this show. Whether that really was such a "bad" thing is up to each person and what they could (or couldn't) take away from the series. It could have been better, but for me it didn't amount to "nothing" in the end.
I'm of the opinion that the entire first half (1-12) could have been shorter and didn't really like the China arc that much. On the other hand, on re-watch I actually appreciate 6 and 7 a lot more, so there are certainly different ways of looking at this.
The late night slot allowed them to get away with actual nudity though, not just once but at least three different times from what I can recall, so that would have to be a relative moderation.
They couldn't actually do that on prime time so I suppose that's part of why we got more of the standard kind of fanservice instead, since someone, either the executives or the staff, felt it was needed (to attract more viewers?).
It's true that fanservice is still present throughout the show, but I'd argue most of it is concentrated around the first half of R2, with episodes 5 and 12 still being the biggest individual offenders, if you want to put it like that. It didn't disappear after that point, but at least for me, it was barely an issue in comparison.
Let alone compared to, say, the amount of cheesecake in a series such as Godannar (which IMHO is pretty good regardless).
As admittedly funny as this is, there's only like one exposition scene which vaguely reserables what you're describing, near the end of R2 11 in fact. I don't think it actually got in the way of any of the more important dramatic moments though, just in case someone cares, but you never know.
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There are, to be sure. One is a character piece for Lelouch and the other is high-stakes battle. I'm just a bit divided about whether we really needed Lelouch doubting himself so soon after he had come back into his own as Zero. As you say, though, it's a subjective matter.
Yeah, but at least it could be in context sometimes. For instance, the shower scene in 3 had Lelouch throwing Kallen off of his trail. I can accept something like that. It seems to me that's a bit different from drawing C.C. in a fanservicey position for seemingly its own sake. Although, I'll grant that what happened on the Island in season one probably can't be justified in the same way.
Oh, no doubt. My aim was simply to acknowledge that they never completely quit offering some fodder for the otaku audience.
Yeah, but at least it could be in context sometimes. For instance, the shower scene in 3 had Lelouch throwing Kallen off of his trail. I can accept something like that. It seems to me that's a bit different from drawing C.C. in a fanservicey position for seemingly its own sake. Although, I'll grant that what happened on the Island in season one probably can't be justified in the same way.
Oh, no doubt. My aim was simply to acknowledge that they never completely quit offering some fodder for the otaku audience.
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He had abandoned his duties because of his sister once before and I guess this was another one of those points which the show wanted to re-establish during the first arc or two, even though preexisting viewers like us already knew enough about it. Still, I think it also serves as foreshadowing or at least thematic build-up for later events.
Yeah, which is why I did find that scene with C.C. in R2 11 to be among the most gratuitous, since at least you can say that the comedy episodes are fanservice-y in a more consistent and straightforward way. The only other thing I can say there is that they may have wanted to make way for episode 12, as some sort of transition and to have a break between the action, but in my opinion the end of the China arc suffered precisely because of that.
I certainly can't deny that.
Yeah, which is why I did find that scene with C.C. in R2 11 to be among the most gratuitous, since at least you can say that the comedy episodes are fanservice-y in a more consistent and straightforward way. The only other thing I can say there is that they may have wanted to make way for episode 12, as some sort of transition and to have a break between the action, but in my opinion the end of the China arc suffered precisely because of that.
I certainly can't deny that.
