WellTraveledProg
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So christians tell us that this life is a "test" -- that we'll be judged on our behavior during it, and that behavior will send us either to heaven or hell.
My question is, why must one believe in something without evidence for it ("faith") to take a test?
Would it be any less of a test if "god" showed himself to every person, explained the nature of his "test" personally, and gave you the rules you're supposed to follow? Without all the superstitious mystical magical without-evidence "faith" part?
Is the SAT test any easier because you know for a fact that you're taking it and why?
The idea is to test out the good and bad people, right? Plenty of people on earth *know* they'll go to prison if they break the law, but they still break the law...those are bad people. It seems to me that even if god fully, logically, and with knowledge and evidence made the test situation clear, it would still be a valid test -- it just wouldn't require any "faith." Good people would still do good things, bad people would still do bad things, and the "weeding out" would still work without all the "magic." So: why is "faith" necessary?
Please don't say something like "faith is necessary because the bible says it is" ok? That's a cop-out and you know it. Please *explain* why you think it's necessary. Think about it, ok? Thanks.
Giggly: sorry, no "faith" is needed for any of the things you mention, but knowledge is. It doesn't take "faith" to know what time the sun will appear on the horizon tomorrow -- a little knowledge and some simple math can tell you, no "faith" needed.
Steadfast: WHY is works without faith dead? Forget that the bible says so, WHY??
Savage serenity: best answer so far, addressing the issue. But...all the choices in life you mention I can make with reason, logic, and evidence *except* the one to choose to believe in god. Why is that one different?
My question is, why must one believe in something without evidence for it ("faith") to take a test?
Would it be any less of a test if "god" showed himself to every person, explained the nature of his "test" personally, and gave you the rules you're supposed to follow? Without all the superstitious mystical magical without-evidence "faith" part?
Is the SAT test any easier because you know for a fact that you're taking it and why?
The idea is to test out the good and bad people, right? Plenty of people on earth *know* they'll go to prison if they break the law, but they still break the law...those are bad people. It seems to me that even if god fully, logically, and with knowledge and evidence made the test situation clear, it would still be a valid test -- it just wouldn't require any "faith." Good people would still do good things, bad people would still do bad things, and the "weeding out" would still work without all the "magic." So: why is "faith" necessary?
Please don't say something like "faith is necessary because the bible says it is" ok? That's a cop-out and you know it. Please *explain* why you think it's necessary. Think about it, ok? Thanks.
Giggly: sorry, no "faith" is needed for any of the things you mention, but knowledge is. It doesn't take "faith" to know what time the sun will appear on the horizon tomorrow -- a little knowledge and some simple math can tell you, no "faith" needed.
Steadfast: WHY is works without faith dead? Forget that the bible says so, WHY??
Savage serenity: best answer so far, addressing the issue. But...all the choices in life you mention I can make with reason, logic, and evidence *except* the one to choose to believe in god. Why is that one different?