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From today's NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/21/health/nutrition/21recipehealth.html?_r=1

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http://tinyurl.com/6d2noox



"If you avoid eggs because you think they?re bad for you, you should
reconsider. It was never clear that dietary cholesterol had a
significant impact on heart health; saturated fat in the diet is thought
to be a bigger culprit (how big is also a matter of dispute these days).
The government?s new dietary guidelines acknowledge as much, advising
that eating an egg every day will not affect blood cholesterol or
cardiovascular health."

Interesting isn't it? Only a couple of years ago it was "moderate
consumption of eggs, perhaps one a week". Of course it's true that the
fat content of egg yolks is not negligible.

--


James Silverton, Potomac

I'm "not"
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James Silverton wrote:



I think it was more than a couple. Seems to me the Egg Board's
"bad rap" TV commercials were 15 years ago, and the news was already
out that dietary cholesterol on the level of an egg or two a day
was not raising serum cholesterol.


I've been eating more eggs as part of my low-purine diet.

My latest form of health food: pancakes. I make two large pancakes
from 1 egg, 1/3 cup goat kefir, and 2.5 T of whole wheat flour. (Plus
baking powder/soda and oat bran but those have negligible macronutrients.)
Turns out pancakes are low carb, because there is not actually
all that much flour in them. Goat kefir has 1/3 the carbs of
buttermilk (or cow kefir). Why this is I'm not sure (does goat
milk have less lactose in it?)

Steve
 
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:20:49 -0400, James Silverton
wrote:


I ate lots of foods high in cholesterol all my life,
and never had it checked until I had a severe nosebleed last year.

Blood pressure was way high, but chol. was fine (bad was a little high,
good a little low), but total was well under 200.

Brought it down to 130 anyway.

Changed my diet to lose weigh, but didn't need to be on statin drugs.
 
On 25/03/2011 8:52 PM, HumBug! wrote:

One of the things that I have learned about cholesterol levels in the
last few months is that there are two different target levels. There is
one level for low risk people.... those who have not had a cardiac
event, and there is another for those at high risk.... those who have
has an event.

My cholesterol level based on results of the blood work I had done when
I went to see my doctor in October were acceptable because, not having
been diagnosed, I was at acceptable levels. Then when it turned out
that I had a blogged coronary artery and ended up with emergency bypass
surgery, I became high risk, so my acceptable levels changed and I was
high.


I have been on cholesterol lowering medication since the surgery and
on a low fat diet. My cholesterol levels have dropped. Now I need to
raise my HDL level.
 
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Dave Smith wrote:


Apparently there is also a lower target level for diabetics.

Regardless I'm really happy that I don't have to avoid eggs any more. My
cholesterol is a little high but under 200 but doc has me on simvastatin and
it stays in the 140s. Lisinopril for blood pressure and it tests "perfect"
according to the doc.

I've been eating a lot of egg substitute and holding down real eggs to 2 or
3 a week.

I see over easy eggs on my breakfast plate tomorrow morning. Apparently it's
the bacon and hash browns that are going to kill me.

;-)

So what next, will we find out that real butter isn't bad? I hope so!

MartyB
 
In article ,
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote:




And, unfortunately, it appears to be a moving target. I'm afraid to
look and see what today's levels are! A few years back I got tested,
and saw my results on the web page. My LDL was less than 100. Well,
the year before, 100 was the target, so I thought I was all set. A
couple of weeks later I saw the doctor, and he informed me that it was
now 70! So he switched me to a new, more powerful statin.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
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On 3/25/2011 8:20 PM, James Silverton wrote:

I heard on some TV/radio show today that a single egg has the same
amount of fat as a BK whopper. As I rethink where I heard it, it was a
vegan guest on the Ellen show.
 
In article ,
Cheryl wrote:


A Burger King whopper has, according to the "official" website:

670 calories 11g sat. fat 40g fat 1g trans fat
51g carbs 11g sugar 28g protein 75mg cholesterol
980mg sodium

1 large egg (50g) has

71 calories 2g sat. fat 5g fat 0 trans fat
0.4g carbs 0.4 g sugar 6.3g protein 211mg cholesterol
70mg sodium

That is, the egg has 1/8th the fat of the BK whopper.
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:48:15 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


If one drinks milk or eats foods that contain milk (baked goods,
cheese, etc.) then I see no reason whatsoever to avoid real butter...
even milk and other dairy products labled 0% contains some butter fat,
just that it's not quite 1%... I wonder if anyone ever calculated the
equivalent pats of butter contained in those so-called 0% dairy
products (milk, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc). Before switching to
half chemical butter on my morning toast I'd use half as much butter.
I don't believe that moderate amounts of animal fat play any role
whatsoever in cholesterol health issues, and in fact a certain amount
of animal fat in ones diet is critical to good health. And I don't
for one minute buy into that Med olive oil consumption theory being
responsible for longevity, those folks eat far fattier meats and three
times as much cheese as Americans... perhaps they live longer because
those folks maintain a cleaner gene pool but more importantly they are
not so prone to worrying and stuffing their feelings... Stresssss
KILLS!
 
On 3/25/2011 10:59 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Ditto! I'll take "real" butter any time over the margarine! The 'real'
stuff has to be better than the fake - however - as it's said -
moderation works best :/

Sky

--

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Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!
 
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:05:43 -0700 in rec.food.cooking, Michael
Siemon wrote,


I expect that 1/8 accuracy is about normal for nutritional
information on TV. Less if vegan.
 
On Mar 25, 9:04?pm, "Nunya Bidnits" wrote:

Lisinopril is good stuff. Unfortunately for me, I can't tolerate the
side effect (dry cough). It has been shown to reduce death from
congestive heart disease as well as from hypertension.

Ick.

If your doctor had you avoiding egg yolks in the past few years, you
need a new doctor. The only complaint I have with my doctor is that
he won't give me a statin scrip because I'm within normal limits. I
consider statins to be a supplement, and that plasma lipids can always
be better. If I happen to not tolerate them, OK, but why not try?
Still, he's so great in every other way that I'd be very unlikely to
find one I like more as far as treatment goes, and I truly love the
man as a person. My wife said she saw him at the symphony tonight.
Great concert: Brandenburg 1, Water Music Suite No. 2 in D major, and
something unfamiliar to me, the Vanhal Double Bass Concerto in D
major, which brought the house down.

Bacon fat is less unhealthy than butterfat, and the hash browns, if
made with a high monounsaturate oil like peanut or olive, are not bad
for plasma lipids, though some might say they are unhealthy because of
acrylamide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide

The perfect over-easy or lightly basted egg is a joy. 100% solidified
white and yolk that is nearly all liquid is most easily accomplished
using jumbo eggs.


It is bad. Unfortunately, it's one of the worst of the naturally
occurring fats. Still, it is also the most pleasurable, so I indulge
in it nonetheless, and I drink whole milk as well. What one should
avoid altogether is partially hydrogenated oils (Crisco, hard
margarines, many processed foods). You can offset butter consumption
by adding more exercise, which raises HDL levels.

--Bryan
 
On 3/26/2011 12:06 AM, Dan Abel wrote:

As I said, it was a vegan who said it. Nothing against vegans, but there
is an agenda involved.
 
In article ,
James Silverton wrote:


The way they go back and forth about all of this is part of why we
simply eat traditional, whole foods, as much as possible. Our family
seems to do well on them, anyway.

Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
 
"James Silverton" ha scritto nel messaggio

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Sure it's negligible. One egg poached or boiled has 80 calories of which a
lot is protein. I don't even have to look it up to see that the possible
fat at 9 calories per gram is absolutely low. Hundreds of things people eat
are much higher in fat. Even things they think of as healthy are higher.
 
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