Cellphones Nokia CEO Stephen Elop rallies troops in brutally honest 'burning platform

I'm no huge fan of WP7, but isn't its benefit that it offers Nokia a solution until or if Meego gets off the ground?

Their profit numbers over the last year have been shrinking, quarter after quarter. Obviously, relying on Symbian, and maybe the entirety of the Ovi services, aside from Maps, needs a rethink.

(The market share number is irrelevant; Apple has 4% worldwide marketshare, yet pulls in half the profits of the ENTIRE smartphone mobile industry. To a corporation, profit is the most important; share is just a means to an end).
 
I already went through the smartphone thing with you. All I'm gonna say is go play with a current WM7 phone and you might actually appreciate Symbian. Yes WM7 will get better blah blah blah, but currently I'm very unimpressed with the time that I've spent with the Samsung Focus...
 
Have any of you actually USED WP7? I have. I had a HTC HD7 for a week. The platform sucks. Very limited, more locked down in some ways than iOS, so many missing features. It's made for my dad...maybe. If that's Nokia's salvation platform, they're in much worse shape than anyone knows. I don't have the answer, but if WP7 is it, Nokia is done.
 
Personally, and most will disagree with me here, I think they're done anyway. In the longer term horizon, they're a buy-out target. Harsh, I know, but those trend lines won't turn around with going with Symbian/Meego or with WP7.

Some companies just get passed by by time and technology trends; sometimes the company organization is deeply dysfunctional. Nokia has all those problems.
 
They probably are done, I agree. They've had years to get their act together, and they just can't seem to do it.

I'm sad to see it come to this.
 
It's more complete than MeeGo right now. It works properly in portrait mode. Of course webOS would be much better, but who knows if HP will let Nokia in on it.
 
Well, if there is any truth to this memo, and Elop follows through, I would imagine that Nokia will lose as many customers as they will gain, and with that less profits to stay competitive.
 
Love your interpretation of a smartphone. Everyone that comes in here to slam Symbian has their own version of what a smartphone is and what it does. Symbian cannot possibly be a smartphone, because then they feel that their own phone is not as special. Get real...:rolleyes:
 
I heard some crazy story Meego was crashing on the Nokia N9 prototype. Then they tried Windows Phone 7 on it and it worked.

Story is very dubious since WP7 doesn't run on Intel processors and currently Meego runs only on Intel processors.
 
Nothing could make me appreciate Symbian, not even Windows Mobile. Well, 6.0 could, but 6.5 was a better experience than Symbian on all fronts, the only thing that has me preferring my 5230 to my HTC Touch is the well thought out hardware design of the former.

Symbian is terrible overall, nobody wants to buy a phone with Symbian, and nobody wants to develop for it. Sure there are a few Nokia die hards, but they don't count. Everyone else just buys a Symbian phone by accident since they're going for a Nokia or it happened to be a good price compared to the other ones available from their carrier.

And when it comes to Nokia, they have S40 phones with GPS and Ovi Maps now, so there's even less reason to want to have anything to do with Symbian. You get yourself Opera Mini and Google Maps as well as J2ME versions, so the important apps you'd want to use anyway can run on an S40 device, and there you don't have to deal with the kludginess of Symbian.
 
Plus the offline OVI Maps, that's the reason that keep me on symbian. Android abuses too much on internet, and doesn't have support for complete phone backup like iPhone has.
 
The very low end no longer has a bright future at Nokia. It's becoming the territory of the Asian grey box contract OEMs, the ZTEs of the world. China based contract manufacturers can be very profitable on razor thin dumb phone margins. Nokia can no longer play that game. The world has changed, basically.
 
Congrats, Stephen Elop just killed Nokia. Anyone developing in Qt just got the royal screw job. Qt is not even coming to WP7.

Stock is doing the exactly opposite. Lol, really what did you expect. You thought more of the A.D.D. strategy that Nokia has been on would please investors?

I wonder if the board can remove him now. I'm sure that partnership isn't finalized and the damage can be reversed.

The work environment in Nokia must be terrible. Can't imagine the amount of stress going into this, thinking they're on a shipping sink (burning platform). Maybe it's a relief now they realize they don't even have a chance.

My next phone will be an Android or WebOS phone.

I guess I'll have to stick with my N8 for awhile, but I'm not hopeful for anything meaningful. Ha, if you thought PR2.0 was going to be delayed to the end of march.... Now, we'll be lucky if we see it at the end of June. What are your chancing they now have the resources to revamp Symbian's UI?

Man, we millions of people that bought a Symbian^3 device (geez way more people that even have a WP7 device) also got the major screw job.

Let's see what happens to NOK on DOW... geez, the board really ****ed up on hiring this Trojan Horse.
 
Major screw job? If you bought the N8 for future potential but read these boards regularly and knew about nokia's past software troubles as well as the situation they were in at the time the phone was released, the only person you have to blame is yourself.

Their stocks are down already haha. I don't think I'm going to be buying a new phone this year, and I don't have any faith that the MeeGo device that comes out is anything more than a geek toy like the N900.
 
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I still hate windows phone 7 because it's way too restrictive (no memory card, no sideloading installation, no cut/copy/paste, no tethering, no flash, no this, no that) which is enough not to use it.
 
i hate the chinese crap, furthermore usually do not comply with FCC standards and radiofrecuency emisions. Where did you see SAR specifications for chinese phones?
 
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