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Well, true, but if Nokia could do all of the above, they wouldn't be facing the decisions that they have to make now. All the planning in the world will fail, if you never follow through on it. And when crunch time finally comes, and you still haven't fixed your problems....you have to go with the least worst option.
 
Honestly I don't know personally if the story is true, but I have read this same comment on a few other sites today about Meego crashing and they got windows phone running better. Saw it on allaboutsymbian and engadget mobile.

Course it could be made up. And even if true, nothing a little tweaking couldn't fix.

But if true, you have to ask the question, all this time and Nokia still wouldn't have something working decent?
 
Interesting, but inconclusive.

I personally think they need to stick to Symbian and Meego and unite them with Qt... especially after playing with Twimgo and Newsflow on my N8.

What I whole-heartedly agree with is... they need to light a fire under their butts and get stuff out quicker. Their technologies haven't failed them, their management has.

PS... this may be a fake memo.
 
I'm not sure where he heard that or which device he was referring to, but there was a device running on an Intel Medfield chip in bug reports.

The N9 that was pictured across the internet was running on ARM though.
 
Personally I think this Elop is another one like Yahoo's Carol Bartz that will do anything to placate Wall Street investors in the short term but lose long term relevance. Instead of saving Nokia, he will head Nokia to doom faster.

Always remember what Vanjoki's "peeing in the pants" metaphor really meant.
 
I always thougt that metaphor was lacking. I frequently pee on my wetsuit, and it makes me feel warmer momentarily with no side effects. Sometimes peeing on yourself is OK.
 
I'm not sure about that.

He's the one that has access to the transaction/financial numbers as they're happening now on the ground (remember the results we just heard were backward looking from last year), and if he's going this route, it must be because conditions are close to falling off a cliff.

Basically, OPK handed the incoming CEO a bag of s*** on the way out the door, saying "Well, good luck with all THAT."
 
Actually you didn't get it.

Peeing in the pants is a Finnish custom. When caught in a freezing cold, you pee on your pants to get your legs warm so you can at least get home. In other words, what Vanjoki mean by this Finnish custom is a short term fix. People didn't get it because it has a Finnish cultural context. Ironically it was from an Android forum that clarified what he really meant.

He's saying that Android would be just like peeing in the pants --- as in short terms fix to get to a goal. He actually didn't mean it was off the table. But he meant clearly that Nokia must have a long range vision. That would be the stability of having a home with a fireplace.

This blog explains it best. "Americanization" of Nokia would be the worst thing that can happen to it. Elop doesn't strike me as a person with a vision. He's no Jobs or Page or Brin.

http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/r.../07/is-americanization-actually-bad-for-nokia

The Japanese has a saying: "Vision without action is but a dream, but action without vision is a nightmare".
 
Meego and QT was a totally crap decision from the beginning. Now nokia will be supporting 4 platforms? Totally irresponsible. They should keep only with Symbian^3, but massively improve it in some ways, making it incompatible with S60 if necessary. Anyway, Nokia will never be comparable to Android. They were always a closed environment, even the NBU format for backups has been undocumented for year, with no technical reason for that.

On the WP7 side, nokia will be competing with HTC and who know what more, and for bigger price as logical. Even being a good hardware, is still not good in some parts. The N8 screen touch feature is far from the iPhone, and the compass and such are not good compared to iOS and android devices.
 
Maybe in the short term supporting 3 platforms until the transition is complete. Symbian is dead. As in put out to pasture. Gone. The only people who will be buying Symbian phones and supporting the platform is people who don't know any better. Nokia is going with Windows Phone 110 percent. No Maemo, MeegO, and Symbian are going to fade away over the next two years.
 
Pooping in one's pants gives a much more nice and comfortable, luke warm feeling for a much longer time than peeing.

Not sure if the memo is authentic - at best it's a blog recap of a townhall speech, as some of the reports say. And maybe incomplete or inaccurate at that.

Anyway, Friday is here soon and we'll see what's what.
 
If they don't push their existing technologies then I'm probably going to abandon Nokia. They make great hardware, but other than the Camera, they have nothing that unique to other manufacturers.

What I'm interested in is their ecosystem, which isn't fully realized. That's what Nokia needs, is someone with vision, to force the follow through.

I have no interest in a closed ecosystem. I don't want to have to load iTunes just to pop music on a phone. I don't want to transcode my media. I like having my phone's files revealed to me on most PCs. I like having a memory card. I don't want some dude up on high telling me what I can and can't load on my phone.

Android would obviously be the next jump for me if Nokia can't get their **** together.

They have a great opportunity to take back the high-end with Meego, Qt, and the partnership with Intel. And a great opportunity to take back the mid-end with Qt and a new Symbian UI.

I'm not sure what they can do about the low-end, but if their Ecosystem is compelling enough then perhaps that is what becomes attractive. I don't think they can compete that well with the low-end price point.
 
Symbian is dead. I said years ago when the first iphone came out that it was a game changer because of the OS, which is a mobile OSX.

Symbian isn't even considered a smartphone platform anymore. Least of all by Nokia. Did you guys' even read the memo. And yes it's real. Symbian is dead, as is Nokia is dying.

They will go with another OS that is already mature. That is a fact. There is talk now of Symbian either going away or staying on as a midrange OS, basically a regular phone OS. All Nokia non-smart-phones will run some form of Symbian.

I am hearing a mix of Android and Windows OS. They will be mostly a hardware company, which they are good at. Software not so much.
 
I have owned Nokia phones since the analog days.

They just made my mind up for me on my next Smartphone.

Probably Motorola or even iPhone "5" when it comes out.
 
It's too late to unite the platforms with QT. Nokia bought trolltech 2 and a half years ago, and is *JUST NOW* shipping phones with QT applications/libraries.

Let me say that again: 2 and a half years. 30 months. That's how long they've owned Trolltech, and who knows how long they were working with Trolltech prior to this on QT.

And one more fact: QT shipped it's first mobile interface way back in 2001 on a Sharp Zaurus. So I'm pretty QT knew it's way around mobile development... Nokia just fumbled the ball.

And it's too late now. The reason there's any development for Android and Blackberry is that the platforms are easy to design for and based on a common language (Java). QT is based on a slightly modified version of C++, which is only really usable with Nokia's tools, or lots of scripts and bandages.

Nokia needed QT to work well a few years ago, when the landscape was still in flux. Now it's like they're bringing bows and arrows to a tank battle. Too late, NOK.
 
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