Cartoons that went from "Cool" To "CRAP"!
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the Smurfs, when they added the Grand'Pa Smurf, Grand'ma Smurf and travelled in time.
the last episodes of the 1994-97 Spider-man animated series with the clone saga, the cancellation of the series made the end crap.
the last episodes of 1990s X-Men, they wasn't made by the same animators staffs.
for the recents episodes of the Simpsons, it's been a bit too-Homer centered.
the last episodes of the 1994-97 Spider-man animated series with the clone saga, the cancellation of the series made the end crap.
the last episodes of 1990s X-Men, they wasn't made by the same animators staffs.
for the recents episodes of the Simpsons, it's been a bit too-Homer centered.
CanadianDreamer
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Well, it was pretty true in the sense Kinnikuman was pretty ture. They changed quite a bit, though (of course, for my 2 cents Kenji Terrada did a much better job than the people who worked on Nisei). But considering a lot of stuff in the manga was meant for older readers and the cartoon was for children, so quite a few funny jokes were cut. plus, having Kevin Mask lose to Kid Muscle at the end, and throwing that Poison six pack thing from a VJump manga pretty much screwed stuff up.
Now getting back on topic...
Yes, but the writers weren't snotty Harvard grads that didn't know how to write for the character, and just throw random jobs at him to make jokes about those jobs. Homer works at the Nuclear Power plant. He's not unemployed. And Abraham J Simpson's name isn't "Grampa."
Now getting back on topic...
Yes, but the writers weren't snotty Harvard grads that didn't know how to write for the character, and just throw random jobs at him to make jokes about those jobs. Homer works at the Nuclear Power plant. He's not unemployed. And Abraham J Simpson's name isn't "Grampa."
Family Guy - Family Guy use to be really really funny but now it's not the same. The old one use to make fun of celebrities that I knew and a few I didn't but now they joke on celebrities that I have no idea who they are, people from a time way way way back in the day. Also it seems like every other joke they make is racist. It's always a joke about African Americans, Hispanics, Native Americans, Asians, and Arab Americans. I know they made those kinds of jokes in the past but now they take them too far. I don't see why Seth thought he had to push the envelope like that. Lastly the Meg bashing was funny at first but Seth overdid it, even hardcore fans admit that. Does he hate woman or a female relative, like his Mom or Sister? Now for the characters.
Lois - She use to be kind and understanding and very patient with Peter but now she spontaneously shouts out stuff. She pulls off clothes. She now has a million dirty past stories and when I say dirty, I mean sexual. She cussing for no reason. She screams for no reason. She's overly sexual. Also she's the last person I expected to contribute in Meg bashing.
Peter - He's pretty much the same except for his jokes don't go too far (sometimes). One difference is he's the main Meg bashing, he's a grown man why does he hate his daughter and physically causes her pain? Call social services on him!
Chris - The same.
Brian - The first character to go super racist. I get the joke, he's a dog who doesn't like Black people but the thing is, those dogs are usually trained to do that. So who taught him? He always says it's his father coming out of him but come on, he's suppose to be intelligent, he can't control himself? Btw he never knew his Dad, so how could that happen? You don't get racist genes.
Stewie - Stewie use to be half evil and half gay. But now he's just gay. Now before I get in trouble, I just want to tell everyone that I'm not gay bashing, I just don't know why they didn't just make him like that at the beginning instead of waiting? Also he now just makes jokes about people in history or celebrities no one knows. His jokes are lame and his insults are half baked. He's not even evil anymore and trying to bring that evilness out again wouldn't feel right.
Meg - I know Meg is a loser but she doesn't deserve the bashing everyone gives her. I believe someone here and at another forum pointed out that if they want Meg to be ugly and fat and deserve her pain, then make her uglier than other characters, make her fat, and make her do something to get punched and stuff. She does nothing but be herself. If I was Mile Kunis I wouldn't even do that voice anymore, no matter what they paid me. Well maybe I would but that's off topic.
Quagmire - The same, a little freakier though.
Joe - Boring, he doesn't even snap anymore and when he does it feels like a time filler.
Cleveland - I hardly see any of him after his divorce.
Lois - She use to be kind and understanding and very patient with Peter but now she spontaneously shouts out stuff. She pulls off clothes. She now has a million dirty past stories and when I say dirty, I mean sexual. She cussing for no reason. She screams for no reason. She's overly sexual. Also she's the last person I expected to contribute in Meg bashing.
Peter - He's pretty much the same except for his jokes don't go too far (sometimes). One difference is he's the main Meg bashing, he's a grown man why does he hate his daughter and physically causes her pain? Call social services on him!
Chris - The same.
Brian - The first character to go super racist. I get the joke, he's a dog who doesn't like Black people but the thing is, those dogs are usually trained to do that. So who taught him? He always says it's his father coming out of him but come on, he's suppose to be intelligent, he can't control himself? Btw he never knew his Dad, so how could that happen? You don't get racist genes.
Stewie - Stewie use to be half evil and half gay. But now he's just gay. Now before I get in trouble, I just want to tell everyone that I'm not gay bashing, I just don't know why they didn't just make him like that at the beginning instead of waiting? Also he now just makes jokes about people in history or celebrities no one knows. His jokes are lame and his insults are half baked. He's not even evil anymore and trying to bring that evilness out again wouldn't feel right.
Meg - I know Meg is a loser but she doesn't deserve the bashing everyone gives her. I believe someone here and at another forum pointed out that if they want Meg to be ugly and fat and deserve her pain, then make her uglier than other characters, make her fat, and make her do something to get punched and stuff. She does nothing but be herself. If I was Mile Kunis I wouldn't even do that voice anymore, no matter what they paid me. Well maybe I would but that's off topic.
Quagmire - The same, a little freakier though.
Joe - Boring, he doesn't even snap anymore and when he does it feels like a time filler.
Cleveland - I hardly see any of him after his divorce.
Am I the only one that gets the joke of people who are afraid of being racists, say how smart, sophisticated and "liberal" they are, but actually are hidden deep down racists? That's basically the joke with Brian.
I'd also like to add, I love how Lois is not the standard housewife. The show gets enough critisism for being "exaclty like the Simpsons" (that is, they have a family with a stupid father figure who just happens to have 3 kids. Yeah, really a ripoff there). I'd rather her stray to her younger, randier self, than what Marge has become. Too housewify.
I think that list has nothing to do with why FG hasn't been that good lately. It's the scripts. They've gone from the funny cutaway parodies of TV shows and cartoons to cutaways of nonsequitor stuff like "Sneakers MaGee" or something and long rambling conversations that go nowhere... IN.... EVERY... EPISODE. That's where it's weak.
While I would say, American Dad keeps getting better.
I'd also like to add, I love how Lois is not the standard housewife. The show gets enough critisism for being "exaclty like the Simpsons" (that is, they have a family with a stupid father figure who just happens to have 3 kids. Yeah, really a ripoff there). I'd rather her stray to her younger, randier self, than what Marge has become. Too housewify.
I think that list has nothing to do with why FG hasn't been that good lately. It's the scripts. They've gone from the funny cutaway parodies of TV shows and cartoons to cutaways of nonsequitor stuff like "Sneakers MaGee" or something and long rambling conversations that go nowhere... IN.... EVERY... EPISODE. That's where it's weak.
While I would say, American Dad keeps getting better.
whitefaith
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Again, capturing every Pok?mon and obtaining the strongest versions of each one is the point of the video games, not the anime. The anime's definition of "Pok?mon Master" is more akin to someone who fully understands the importance of the bond between Pok?mon and trainer, and the only way for someone to truly understand that is for them to go through what Ash has gone through during the run of the show. Ash initially claimed that his goal was to capture every Pok?mon, but that was during the first season, when he as a character was still young and naive. Ten seasons later, he's matured, and he knows what being a Pok?mon Master really involves.
I really don't want to say Muppet babies, because I liked the show the whole way through....
But it really suffered in the animation department when they strayed from Toei animation, especially the last season
Plus, as cool as it was to see Baby Bean, he seemed really out of place and didn't fit in at all.
But it really suffered in the animation department when they strayed from Toei animation, especially the last season
Plus, as cool as it was to see Baby Bean, he seemed really out of place and didn't fit in at all.
Oh yeah, that cheap early 90's synthesized music. I loved the 80's sounding synthesizer music in all my favorite 80's toons (Gadget especially) but the cheap 90's sounding stuff really kills a show.
Though I will say it was fun to see Statler and Waldorf as their loving "Uncles" instead of the nasty hecklers.
Though I will say it was fun to see Statler and Waldorf as their loving "Uncles" instead of the nasty hecklers.
The_Switch
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I agree, and I couldn't have said it better.
Dexter's Lab - "Season Three" I say it in quotes because I don't acknowledge these episodes as a genuine third season. The show had been out of production for years, and the final episode's title "Last but Not Beast" suggested it was the end. Unlike many, I don't blame the change of voice acting. It was the absence of Tartakofski (sp???). The direction and stories were uninspired. It was like they were just making a cartoon show, where the previous creators had made art.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes - If you don't remember it, it was part of FOXKids Saturday morning line up in its launch season. Based on the movie franchise, it suplied a quirky sense of humour that was rare up untill that time, especially on network Sat-AM broadcasting. But something went wrong for season two. The changed to some season long arc that I had trouble following because of distracting visual changes. They added some 3-D CG footage and must have blown their budget on it bacause the 2-D parts were now extremely limited and often strangely distorted.
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures - Honestly I don't know if the show was ever good, but I remember being a fan of the movies and also liking the cartoon. I know I eventually noticed a decline in quality and stopped watching, but my momory is fuzzy, dude.
Rugrats - I can't believe I once enjoyed this show, but that was back when it was lined up with Doug and Ren & Stimpy. It was my least favorite of the three, but I still liked it. Somewhere along the way it became the most obnoxious thing ever.
which reminds me...
Ren & Stimpy - I hope we all learned that when you have a mega-hit on your hands you probably shouldn't fire the creative force behind it.
B:TAS - I know this is the one of the holy grails here at rabroad, but I must admit I didn't like the new designs after the move to WB. The women all had beach-ball sized heads and twig bodies. The Joker didn't look like a clown. Catwoman's skin went to blue. The only design that was an improvement was The Penguin, and it was a welcome change. Also the Tim Drake Robin annoyed me deeply.
And adding Gameboy as a character. What shameless marketing
Really???
But swords and knives were okay? That's hilarious.
Dexter's Lab - "Season Three" I say it in quotes because I don't acknowledge these episodes as a genuine third season. The show had been out of production for years, and the final episode's title "Last but Not Beast" suggested it was the end. Unlike many, I don't blame the change of voice acting. It was the absence of Tartakofski (sp???). The direction and stories were uninspired. It was like they were just making a cartoon show, where the previous creators had made art.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes - If you don't remember it, it was part of FOXKids Saturday morning line up in its launch season. Based on the movie franchise, it suplied a quirky sense of humour that was rare up untill that time, especially on network Sat-AM broadcasting. But something went wrong for season two. The changed to some season long arc that I had trouble following because of distracting visual changes. They added some 3-D CG footage and must have blown their budget on it bacause the 2-D parts were now extremely limited and often strangely distorted.
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures - Honestly I don't know if the show was ever good, but I remember being a fan of the movies and also liking the cartoon. I know I eventually noticed a decline in quality and stopped watching, but my momory is fuzzy, dude.
Rugrats - I can't believe I once enjoyed this show, but that was back when it was lined up with Doug and Ren & Stimpy. It was my least favorite of the three, but I still liked it. Somewhere along the way it became the most obnoxious thing ever.
which reminds me...
Ren & Stimpy - I hope we all learned that when you have a mega-hit on your hands you probably shouldn't fire the creative force behind it.
B:TAS - I know this is the one of the holy grails here at rabroad, but I must admit I didn't like the new designs after the move to WB. The women all had beach-ball sized heads and twig bodies. The Joker didn't look like a clown. Catwoman's skin went to blue. The only design that was an improvement was The Penguin, and it was a welcome change. Also the Tim Drake Robin annoyed me deeply.
And adding Gameboy as a character. What shameless marketing
Really???
But swords and knives were okay? That's hilarious.There were 2 versions of Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures. The 1st one was produced by Hanna Barbera and ran on CBS from September 1990 to August 1991. This version had Alex Winter (Bill), Keanu Reeves (Ted) and George Carlin (Rufus) reprising their roles from the movie. The shows' 2nd season ran on FOX and was produced by DIC productions and had no actors from the original cast. There was a noticeable decline in the quality of the storytelling and the animation.
punkbunny77
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Yeah, DIC revived the show after Hanna Barbera dropped it, and the animation just wasn't the same. Look at any DIC cartoon made in 1992.... terrible animation. But I loved them both.
One of the biggest horror stories in animation history. Every single cartoonist fears about companies tearing something out of their hands and doing their own thing. The animation and writing were terrible, they resorted to non-sensical plot lines, and the characters were oversimplified. I used to like all the R&S episodes, but rewatching the games ones are brutal. Though I still like Stimpy's Cartoon Show.
Actually that was the second season. Ironically, the writing and just about everything else got better that season. They had epic crossovers with Zelda and Link. They even went to the video game world of a beloved anime movie character. Third season sucked. That's when it was 12 minutes instead of 22.
Nunchucks apparently count as a strangulation weopon. The Brits came up with that. And replacing the "Ninja" with "hero" in the title.
One of the biggest horror stories in animation history. Every single cartoonist fears about companies tearing something out of their hands and doing their own thing. The animation and writing were terrible, they resorted to non-sensical plot lines, and the characters were oversimplified. I used to like all the R&S episodes, but rewatching the games ones are brutal. Though I still like Stimpy's Cartoon Show.
Actually that was the second season. Ironically, the writing and just about everything else got better that season. They had epic crossovers with Zelda and Link. They even went to the video game world of a beloved anime movie character. Third season sucked. That's when it was 12 minutes instead of 22.
Nunchucks apparently count as a strangulation weopon. The Brits came up with that. And replacing the "Ninja" with "hero" in the title.
Obviously Pokemon has got to be one.
Back when I was in 3rd grade (during the first season) everyone knew everything about the show and everyone brought their playing cards to school.
It was probably the Biggest fad epidemic I've ever seen.
But now, Pokemon is only used as a joke. And if you do say the word "Pokemon", all seriousness of the sentence goes away.
It's just a joke now.
Most interst in the Pokemon fad went away by the 3rd season.
Back when I was in 3rd grade (during the first season) everyone knew everything about the show and everyone brought their playing cards to school.
It was probably the Biggest fad epidemic I've ever seen.
But now, Pokemon is only used as a joke. And if you do say the word "Pokemon", all seriousness of the sentence goes away.
It's just a joke now.
Most interst in the Pokemon fad went away by the 3rd season.
Cartoons that went from "Cool" To "CRAP"!
Actually, from what I understand, "Pok?mon" is back in a big way. The anime gets some pretty darn good ratings on Cartoon Network, and "Pok?mon Diamond" has been the best-selling video game of 2007.
This stuff is all cyclical. The people who were into the franchise ten years ago have moved on, but a whole new generation of fans have taken their place.
Actually, from what I understand, "Pok?mon" is back in a big way. The anime gets some pretty darn good ratings on Cartoon Network, and "Pok?mon Diamond" has been the best-selling video game of 2007.
This stuff is all cyclical. The people who were into the franchise ten years ago have moved on, but a whole new generation of fans have taken their place.
zinu_angel
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Despite the fact I hate Pokemon with every fiber of my being....err..... am not a fan, I felt the reason why it keeps going over here is due to the video game sales. I keep seeing various attempts at bringing back a toy line flop completely. Jakks has the license now, since Hasbro lost quite a bit on them the last time.
ha, your right. As far as my memory serves, 5th grade is about when everyone stoped bring their pokemon related possesions to school, except for a few geeks who still brother their Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
Yea, it really is. Although, I can't say many people at my school are watching it again.
However, at our last home football game (which was homecoming) one gator (we don't have fans, we have gators. Gators are fans who dress up in halloween costumes, not just school colors), when one gator wore a Pikachu costume. It was so small, all the seems were comming apart.
LOL
But I don't think that really has anything to do with Pokemon comming back.
I have to give some credit to Pokemon Chronicles, because that was the series that got me back into Pokemon. After seeing Chronicles, I picked back up with Pokemon: Battle Frointer.
Yea, it really is. Although, I can't say many people at my school are watching it again.
However, at our last home football game (which was homecoming) one gator (we don't have fans, we have gators. Gators are fans who dress up in halloween costumes, not just school colors), when one gator wore a Pikachu costume. It was so small, all the seems were comming apart.
LOL
But I don't think that really has anything to do with Pokemon comming back.
I have to give some credit to Pokemon Chronicles, because that was the series that got me back into Pokemon. After seeing Chronicles, I picked back up with Pokemon: Battle Frointer.
Cartoons that went from "Cool" To "CRAP"!
Which is ironic, considering that "Pok?mon Chronicles" was the worst Pok?mon dub that 4Kids Entertainment ever did (take a look and see what you missed: http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/chronicles/chronicles_list.html).
Which is ironic, considering that "Pok?mon Chronicles" was the worst Pok?mon dub that 4Kids Entertainment ever did (take a look and see what you missed: http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/comparisons/chronicles/chronicles_list.html).