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Carat does have reliability issues. I know of at least 3 sites hosted there who have had HDDs failing on them, multiple times.

Also, to comment on a previous post, while filesharing in Canada is legal, running a tracker is not.
 
dvdasacd said:
Well that doesn't matter, does it (and neither does all the previous stuff in that paragraph which I don't need to quote)...that's a side criticism which I don't care about. All I care(d?) about in this thread is the logical argument we had. Which in the end, you more or less agreed with me in.
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Since you don't seem to grasp what I was trying to say when I say it pleasantly I will now be less subtle. The side criticism that you don't care about is my MAIN concern, I actually think you are a bit mental having a tantrum like your first post over a bit torrent site that you were not a member of. This is NOT sarcasm it is actually amazement that someone could get that wound up over a torrent site that they were not a member of.
I was also surprised at your arrogance in your little speech about running a torrent site correctly and that you look around at all the 'fail sites', who does that ? seriously, gloves off, I think your a fruit loop!
 
Artemis said:
You...seem to need someone to blame
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Yeah...you see that as a Problem? :P I don't ;).

As I also explained, database control and backup was the job of the coders for the site. If you do feel so strongly about this though maybe you should talk to him directly since this boils your bunny so much. He is staff on other trackers and available on several irc channels on the bend network for you to explain your extreme disappointment.
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Thing is, I'm not angry :). Not at FTWR, not at . I was never there and never wanted to join it either. But annoyed, yes - at how you argued it was all Carat's fault - annoyed on a pure logical level. (with nothing to do with whether I think carat are a good host or not - since that is irrelevant to the issue.)

I know ilias, and he is a cool guy. I have much respect for him from what I know of him and from conversation I've had with him. He's the type of person who I would be shocked if I found him to be responsable for such a stupid thing - no matter my regard for him [but that's just it! I have always been told that FTWR staff are "amongst the best in the bt world" blaa blaa blaa and that's why I AM shocked at this - but not angry lol]. But I don't deem ilias responsable anyway, I deem the owner 95% responsability and only think that other staff should have a. thought of it, b. checked it and c. seeing that it wasn't being done, vehemently suggested it to the owner and I'm sorry, but I would never staff at a site that didn't make a (secure? sure, noobzor showed how that was viable!) off-site backup and constantly existed in the possibility that in one second the entire thing could be lost forever. I wouldn't even want to be a member of such a site. It's a tragedy to those who valued FTWR and a joke to others who didn't (and who tend to laugh at such things). To me, it's just pure WHAT DIDN'T YOU DO?

You're the one who I think I can detect some anger (at FTWR's demise) in. Am i right? From your first post, it sounded really bitter. Thing is, i don't have anything wrong with that, we're all human beings, not vulcans, my only problem was you shifting the primary blame from what the real cause was. See I think it important for people to know, and for others to learn from it - I'm motivated by the desire to run a tracker well, and to see others to do the same. This is why I'm so loud-mouthed about what I think are "failsites", too. I'm just sick of them, we should strive for excellence, not be content with mediocrity. In this age of tracker saturation it's a waste of time caring for what's not the best ("best" is subjective but whatever that means to you, apply it). So a skeptical judgement when you see or hear about a new site should be always held, imo.

I agree that the demise of the site was ultimately due to the lack of an off-site backup and as Ca aok suggested there are several ways around this but then hindsight is a marvelous thing, and this is not the first torrent site that closed due to lack of backup and probably won't be the last.
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I can agree to that. :/

pro267 said:
Also, to comment on a previous post, while filesharing in Canada is legal, running a tracker is not.
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You'd have to find what whatman has said (maybe in his what.cd 2nd anniversary interview). He's sent emails back to rights holders saying there's nothing he's going to do about their complaint because it's not illegal where the site is hosted. It's some technicality - in how the torrent files are stored (or not stored, actually) on the server. i think.
 
dvdasacd you are one to easily critique every tacker and say your not content with mediocrity.
I think you should get some experience in running a tracker to really understand the responsibility and dedication it takes to make it all happen.

Also the fact that you weren't a member of FTWR drops all credibility for your posts, as you have no idea how the tracker was ran.
The only thing you know about is how it went under.
 
lol - i couldn't read all that in the last post (i started feeling sleepy) but it was prolly entertaining ass the rest of dvdasacd's responses. Talk about off-topic.
 
I'm not a coder and have never had anything to do with the backup scheme, coding, server maintenance, or hard drives of FTWR. Whatever was going on with all of that was and is a mystery to me.

Carat has different levels of servers and I assume you get what you pay for...if you pay for a bottom of the line server you can expect things to go wrong from time to time (and boy do they). However, with that in mind it would be prudent to be prepared for things to go wrong. FTWR was not prepared unfortunately.
 
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