Can we hook up BEV receiver at the campsite/cottage?

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We are not talking about the policy in place now for new customers but rather a policy that was in effect several years ago and was a selling point for some customers.
 
God, I wish there was a way to "block" certain posters.

And I also think that running a spell checker might help.

I give in. She knows what I am thinking, therefore I am wrong she is right, typical Express Vu, no point asking direct questions you never get a straight answer.
 
And also keep in mind that Bell is just towing the line they have been asked to tow. They say "please don't do it" but really don't do much to stop it.

I can only guess that with Dish supplying Bell with hardware that Dish has asked them to "not allow" Canadians to bring down Bell hardware. However if they were truely serious about it, the footprint of the satellite would be even further north than it is now. Dish has done this with their hardware- by the time you hit Calgary aiming in the main Dish bird is tricky, and as far north as Edmonton it is near impossible with a 20" dish.

The bottom line for me is if I'm taking my receiver away from my home, I simply do not use my other ones.
 
Of course you're wrong, you are the one who doesn't use the service according to your service contract...
 
I had my service installed 5 years ago and I did sign a contract...

I said that they will call people even on the week-end to verify...after X amount of call and message left they have the right, as stated in the service agreement shown previously to deactivate receivers

It's not a way to piss off people but a way for the compagny to ensure that clients are respecting what they signed to and are following the rules that CRTC forces us to follow. It's not something hidden to the customer as our service agreement clearly states it...again you signed the conract, you agree to it!
 
You are correct. The US market is protected by copyright law and the Canada-US copyright treaty. However, that is a civil issue. If EV as a company knowingly contravenes copyright law or the treaty they may be liable. AFAIK, unlike in Canada, there is no US law making it illegal for US citizens or visitors to receive foreign satellite signals in the US.
 
Bell does not allow you do that and will not sell you an additional dish. However just because Bell does not allow it and won't sell you a dish does not mean its not possible. The easiest thing to do is buy an 18' or 20' dish from ebay or the fourms, bring the dish and the reciever to the camp site and violla you have tv at your campsite. There is no way Bell would know, unless of course you tell them.
 
I know what is in the contract. I just know that all this MRVP dept is going to do is piss off paying subs

dosborne, everytime the Customer Service Agreement is changed (usually 1-2 times a year) they send out a notice with your bill or seperatlly by mail telling you of the changes, and giving you 7 -10 days cancel your account if you do not agree with the changes. By not calling in and cancelling your account it is implied that you accept the new term and conditions.
 
Same policy apply to ALL customers
Nemnoch you are referring to te cottage promotion that was in place many years ago
I let you have a dish installed at both location that you could bring back and forthfrom location A to B. With only one receiver it is still permitted to bring it back and forth from A to B.

We also had cottage promotion were client could have 2 receivers, if they call in to deactivate the home one when they go to cottage. That policy was not well re-inforced in store, even when placing the order, which generated confusion for clients
 
I have no Service Contract for the 6100.....lol

And because I chose not to follow the letter of the service agreement on my other receivers, I got Express Vu a new customer.....lol
 
Ok, but I did not, nor did about 12 other people I know. Doesn't really matter. I'm done with this topic :)

I'm not disputing what is in the service agreement nor am I disputing that they may or may not call. It is an unreasonable expectation that they will cut service within 24 hours if you do not answer the phone. If they leave a message (if you have an answering machine) then they advise you to call back within 72 hours. It is also extremely unlikely that based on the frequency of calls that they would randomly call the weekend you happened to be away with the receiver.

Can you imagine the number of complaints if every time you went out for 12 hours or more you came home to service that was cut off? How many customers do you think they'd have after that LOL.

Never said it was hidden. It does piss people off though. I've had to waste my time twice running all over the house providing the info.

I've said what I want to say. You can believe me or not, I don't really care. I am just presenting a "real world" view as opposed to the "EV-centric" view. The question was "Can we hook up BEV receiver at the campsite" to which the answer is "yes" but it goes against the contract that you (may or may not have) signed.
 
What I have noticed by looking at the 3100's system info screen is a parameter called "Last Contact" this is the last time it was instructed to call Bell to let them know it's in your home on your phone line. I've noticed this date changes ever 2 months... so it only calls home every 2 months! Only when I ordered PPV Boxing did I notice it calling out right away to report the $44.95 purchase. So theoretically you could take the receiver to the cottage or campsite for the summer and not have it connected to a phone line for some time without having any problem just don't order PPV... that might cause a problem.
 
Getting "real" is that the Nimiq satellites are not on the FCCs Permitted Space Station List:
http://www.fcc.gov/ib/sd/se/permitted.html

Earth stations located in the US are simply not allowed to access those satellites for any service whatsoever. Period. BEV is simply following the rules.

While the Anik satellites are on that list you'll notice the first caveat:
"Telesat Canada is not authorized to use ANIK F1R to provide any Direct-to-Home (DTH) service, Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) service, or Digital Audio Radio Service (DARS) to, from, or within the United States."

Why Starchoice is more tolerant of customers using their service from the US than BEV most likely comes down to policy from upper management. Not from call centre agents. Agent Express V is simply stating BEV policy on the subject (I don't think he's even mentioned his personal opinion on the policy).

One of the nice things about this site is that there are a few insiders here that share what information they can. What's the point in launching a personal attack on them simply for stating their companies policy?
 
I am going away this weekend and I WILL be taking a 5900 with me. I will also take a Tripod and Dish, I do not want to miss the F1 race from Silverstone.

I WILL NOT be calling to "disconnect" my other receivers at home as I do not see it being necessary, there will be no-one in my house all the time I am away, therefore I am NOT watching paid for programming in 2 locations, therefore I am doing nothing wrong.

And just a correction for "barter", the Location ID CAN be changed by Express Vu, they will do it whilst you are on the phone with them when they call to "Inventory" the receivers......They did it with me recently.
 
hi i'm new to the sat thing anyway here's my?
my grandad bought the bell expressvu 3100 with 4 receivers and he wants to bring one to the camp so what does he need to do buy just a dish? and can he use the same receive he has in the city to bring up to the camp? or does he have to buy a new system? thanks for the help mtl99.
 
Dn't ko where you took that lette from, but Icold confirm that CRTC does forces Express Vu to enforce the cottage policy.

Call the CRTC they will let you know...they acted that way following a clim from cable saying this is unfair competition

That polcy should alo be applied by Star Choce, but they decided to go against te CRTC an ignore it
 
Firstly, how would the SAT department know I moved the receiver.?

Secondly, if I am away for the weekend they CANNOT get an answer on my home telephone. As soon as I arrive home the receiver is back in the spare room.

As I have a 9200, 5200, 3200, 5900 and a 6100 on my account, I ALREADY get the damned annoying calls.

I just take my time and keep them on-line for 35 to 40 minutes while I walk around the house getting the Location ID #'s. I almost always get 1 digit wrong on 2 receivers to slow down the process, if they want to waste my time, I will in turn waste theirs.....

No big deal, I call them when it is convenient for me, not when it is convenient for them.
 
So what you are saying is that Bell is enforcing US laws (not Canadian) when the US Police or US satellite providers don't care.
Or as the CRTC says it is Bell's business policy.
It is time they went out of business or go to Cuba or Communist China.
 
So as long as you are the owner of the 2 locations, you can have receivers at either place without paying additional cost (asside from rental of the receivers if you choose to go that route)?
 
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