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An arguement with a trinitarian: (his side)
Jesus is our ETERNAL Creator.....
Let's talk about things-----------God, stars, Jesus, earth, ANGELS, man etc.
1) things that "came into being" or were created
2) things that are eternal and had no beginning and were therefore not created.
A) John 1:3 tells us this ---- Jesus created all things that came into being....
B) Since Jesus created all things that came into being ,,
C) Jesus Himself cannot be a thing that came into being...Impossible----He did not create Himself
D) Stars -came into being - Jesus created them
E) Angels - came into being - Jesus created them
F) Heaven - came into being etc.etc. - Jesus created them
G) Jesus DID NOT come into being--he created all things that come into being
H) Therefore He is in category 2 above ETERNAL
D) God also did not come into being---also ETERNAL
Can anyone list the logical fallacies (if there are any)? (Fallacies like Undistributed middle, equivocaton, etc)
Jesus is our ETERNAL Creator.....
Let's talk about things-----------God, stars, Jesus, earth, ANGELS, man etc.
1) things that "came into being" or were created
2) things that are eternal and had no beginning and were therefore not created.
A) John 1:3 tells us this ---- Jesus created all things that came into being....
B) Since Jesus created all things that came into being ,,
C) Jesus Himself cannot be a thing that came into being...Impossible----He did not create Himself
D) Stars -came into being - Jesus created them
E) Angels - came into being - Jesus created them
F) Heaven - came into being etc.etc. - Jesus created them
G) Jesus DID NOT come into being--he created all things that come into being
H) Therefore He is in category 2 above ETERNAL
D) God also did not come into being---also ETERNAL
Can anyone list the logical fallacies (if there are any)? (Fallacies like Undistributed middle, equivocaton, etc)