can a man be killed three times, how is it possible to trust history books?

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History is politics, and you can never trust politics.

Regarding the incident you mentioned, there is never a reliable book as far as Grand Riot and its aftermath is concerned. All things written about it were documented some 150 years after the actual event .Historians were never neutral nor intended to be.You will find some stories harshly condemning Bani Omaya and those were usually written in Appasiyad state period .You also will find other stories trying to shirk responsibility off Muawiya and his son in all crimes and those were spread by Ibn Hanbal's followers or Al- Mamoun oppositions. The truth is lost in all this mess , and will always be.
 
Hojr ibn Oday alKindi, a famous man, from a famous tribe that had kings before islam, was the head of his tribe in Ali's army, he was in his tribes deligation that met prophet mohammad. could he get killed three different days, in three different places, by three different people, in three of the most reliable arabian historical books? in "al istee3ab" by ibn abdol-bar, mohammad ibn seereen said that he was killed by Mu3aweya in damascus. almas3udi in "the golden feilds" said that in he was killed by a one eyed man in marj 3athra' 12 miles away from damascus. this is also in alJazri's "the lions of the forest", back to ibn abdolbar, who gave another story that hojr was killed in iraq by zeyad the son of his father.
ibn abdolbar, 1992, 1 vol., p. 330, 328. mas3oodi, 1967. jazri, dar alsha3b, vol. 1, p. 462.
it was an important event, that when heard, abdolla ibn omar ibn alkhattab cried in the market. alhusain ibn ali said the ta3weeth from the devil, alrabi ibn ziad the governer of afghanistan said in public that he wishs to die after this, and died the same day! aisha bint abi bakr said bad things to mu3aweya when she met him in mecca because of it.
the history of 20th century!! i was alive in 1989 when an american profissional report was diclared saynig komaini not saddam gased the kurds in halabcha! history is written by ruling classes!! and god created the world with reason and doesn't do any unreasonable thing, and what about the holocaust, why people who deny it gets threat to be killed and send them to courts in france!!
 
History is never completely accurate.
Especially history affected by religion and religious beliefs.
Modern history is relatively accurate though.
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Think 20th century
 
History, when written from a religious viewpoint, is extremely unreliable.
It is usually written the way the author thinks it should have happened, and not always how it ACTUALLY happened. It can also be viewed and interpreted by the reader the way HE thinks it should have been.
The Holocaust is a good example. In spite of all the overwhelming mass of evidence, there are those who deny it happened, because it suits their own agenda. Sometimes you just want to give up on humanity!
 
You said it yourself - "History is written by the winners."

Here's something else you should consider - "NOTHING in life is true."

That is to say, everything we base as fact is based on assumptions. Even that statement "NOTHING in life is true." is based on the assumption that, indeed, nothing is true. To say that we are real or that we exist is based on the assumption that we actually do. It is completely possible that we're simply an experiment, or that we're all part of an amazing dream, an emergent-experience who's beginning and end have no real meaning other than to occur. Who knows exactly?

In any case, to bring it back to "reality", how sure are you that the world isn't already owned, and that everything that's ever happened since pre-Columbian times wasn't premeditated so as to rule every person on earth? That's a completely shattering view, isn't it? Fact is, it most likely is. I mean, how is it that the Holocaust was able to occur without ANYONE noticing until AFTER it happened?! How is it that the world's most secure country, who has stopped MANY terrorist attacks and has endured many wars and has top-flight information, be able to be devastated by airplanes crashing into the WTC? When analyzing everything and putting notions and emotions aside, one will realize that everything we've been told is a lie.

For instance - did you know ANY captured Jewish-European person who was traced back to have HEBREW blood was allowed to leave to Denmark by the Nazis? It's absolutely true. Also, did you know that on September 11th, the CIA was conducting "simulation terrorist-attacks" THAT SAME MORNING, WITH the WORLD TRADE TOWERS as the TARGET, confusing the ARMED FORCES OPERATORS and NOT ALLOWING them to dispatch air fighters to stop those hi-jacked planes? IT'S TRUE! Did you also know that the world's fate was locked when Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act? It's true... The world is a scary place when you realize its smaller than you think. If you don't believe THOSE statements I just made, then the truth would completely destroy your world.

I know because it destroyed mine...

"The world's a stage..." - William Shakespeare
 
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