BTracs hacking accounts of trackers

All i have to say about BTRACS is this, when i joined some 8 months ago all i had was Demonoid invites and now i have a long list of high level trackers which i got from BTRACS senior members without paying ONE CENT. All i have now its because of their kindness, and i would give up my favorite tracker accounts before i would give up my account at BTRACS.
 
Exactly, please provide some proof of this. Unlike this community most of the BTRACS members are young and inexperienced torrenters, who do not possess high level accounts. As a respected member of BTRACS I have several trustworthy moderator friends over there and i can assure you they don't have any interest in hacking other peoples accounts for most already have extensive tracker collections. Check out the accounts listed by their mods in the Tracker Review section and then check the rest of the site out including the Request section. Bottom line the mods have nicer trackers than almost all the members.
 
chrisbeebops, i think you got BTRACS mistaken for one of those shady torrentinvite auction type forums. BTRACS is essentially a junior version of FST with the majority of the site dedicated to file sharing and BitTorrent discussions. Like FST it has a Trade, Request and Giveaway section and the majority of members do not trade/sell invites. It's usually the younger cats who are eager to jump into that trading game and some quickly get burned or disabled and learn their lesson. There are also rare occasions when thieves and scammers do get publicly reported and the same thing would happen here. I could pass you what i'm smoking but i guarantee you may enjoy it.
 
Has it ever occured to the people slandering and flaming upon traders/sellers, that there are a lot of people that feel the same about regular P2P-users.

After all P2P-users are still thieves. The honest people that buy their CD's/DVD's/appz look at us in the same way we look at the traders and/or sellers.

I know there is honor amongst the regular P2P-community. So I always wonder if there isn't honor amongst certain traders/sellers. People that are honest when selling invites, that don't scam others and traders that trade honestly.
 
TheFallenAngel said:
Ok. Even though this is my first post here, I've been reading FST articles for a long time now. But this thread. I just had to reply to. I can see that most of you are so full of "it". Face it.We are all pirates. The moment we got that tag, we're already a citizen in the scum world. What are those btracs guys doing that we as pirates are not? Face it, we started the whole shit just to get stuff for free. So why should there be any restrictions to who does what? I've been a member of btracs till a few months ago. And I know most of the members and staff there. Every single guy on the staff is as good as any of you guys. And as far as security goes, well, my account never got broken into. And as chrisbeebops said about the Black Hallways or whatever it is called now, it was not meant to be a secret place for more trading. It was a place meant for the good users of btracs to stay safe from scammers and even scummier people. And I can without any shame say that I was banned at btracs just for being friends with a scammer,even though I miss going back here, I'm not worried coz, they banned me thinking that I might cause a problem to the other members of btracs, just coz I was friends with a scammer. This is how much they care about their members. But of course if you start viewing that forum through the eyes of prejudice, you'll never get my point.
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Through the eyes of prejudice?! Try being lectured by their more idiotic members on how "powerful" they are, try seeing how many of their members (no wait, read up in this thread) think that having "high level trackers" necessitates them also receiving respect, and try watching a bunch of them argue day and night about how it's a solid community for the love of bt (for the love of crying out loud), then all of them proceed to quit or hide underground in order to continue trading/selling. Do you honestly hold a modicum of respect for a torrent that finds value in members that start "The elite traders club"?

I've always given everything (and hopefully everyone, although, I can obviously never recall exceptions) a chance at earning my respect/time. BTRacs threw that out of the window, with other members chrisbeebops and clearly yourself having far worse experiences with them that I can imagine.

Riddle me this: For a forum full of good people, they surely didn't seem too venerable or patient when dealing with your case. So much for a community of level-headed individuals, huh? They wouldn't need to be weary of people cheating them, while they cheat the torrenting community at large, while we cheat society, if they didn't start a hive (swarm reference) full of douchebag cheaters in the bloody first place.

Let me put it into proper perspective for you: This is a crooked rotten world, where people name drop their own selves in third person while demanding power, where you're more likely to hear "do you know who I am", rather than "please", and where thieves figure out that they have the chance of stealing from other thieves (as is happening with btracs/traders/this thread). Sure, we're all pirates. However, if by the eyes of society we're scum, as you say, then, by virtue of hierarchy, what should we call the scum of our social denomination?
 
I completely understand your point chrisbeebops and it must of been shady and frustrating but times are changing. Registration is now open, you can now add a tracker to the NML list and it is enforced. Also selling trackers/invites for cash is now banned. From what i heard recently there is very little activity in the black hallways and that was setup to escape the clutches of tracker staff, who were doing a solid job disabling traders and invite givers. It's pretty clear that they didn't want anything to do with tracker staff apart from maybe setting up a recruitment thread but i think that will change and they are trying to clean up their act. That reference you made to scamming their own users out of accounts that was once done publicly via a mod to a known thief who scammed several members and the accounts were not sold as planned. I have no proof they weren't sold but that is what members were told.
I'm defending them on this thread for i hate when the facts aren't straight but in my opinion it's a complete joke thinking they regularly hack their own users accounts. I have not seen one post on their site with a user complaining about this and there is no proof of this. But we can bullshit and call them shady or whatever for days on end but odds of this threads hacking claim ever being supported by facts are slim to none.
 
gumgum said:
All i have to say about BTRACS is this, when i joined some 8 months ago all i had was Demonoid invites and now i have a long list of high level trackers which i got from BTRACS senior members without paying ONE CENT. All i have now its because of their kindness, and i would give up my favorite tracker accounts before i would give up my account at BTRACS.
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You apparently don't realize how silly that sounds.
 
ringhunter said:
Through the eyes of prejudice?! Try being lectured by their more idiotic members on how "powerful" they are, try seeing how many of their members (no wait, read up in this thread) think that having "high level trackers" necessitates them also receiving respect, and try watching a bunch of them argue day and night about how it's a solid community for the love of bt (for the love of crying out loud), then all of them proceed to quit or hide underground in order to continue trading/selling. Do you honestly hold a modicum of respect for a torrent that finds value in members that start "The elite traders club"?

I've always given everything (and hopefully everyone, although, I can obviously never recall exceptions) a chance at earning my respect/time. BTRacs threw that out of the window, with other members chrisbeebops and clearly yourself having far worse experiences with them that I can imagine.

Riddle me this: For a forum full of good people, they surely didn't seem too venerable or patient when dealing with your case. So much for a community of level-headed individuals, huh? They wouldn't need to be weary of people cheating them, while they cheat the torrenting community at large, while we cheat society, if they didn't start a hive (swarm reference) full of douchebag cheaters in the bloody first place.

Let me put it into proper perspective for you: This is a crooked rotten world, where people name drop their own selves in third person while demanding power, where you're more likely to hear "do you know who I am", rather than "please", and where thieves figure out that they have the chance of stealing from other thieves (as is happening with btracs/traders/this thread). Sure, we're all pirates. However, if by the eyes of society we're scum, as you say, then, by virtue of hierarchy, what should we call the scum of our social denomination?
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I'm not saying you are wrong
All I am trying to say is that no one has any right to call each other anything. These things that we argue over are just codes and scripts. I don't see what difference it makes in the the eyes of the society. Coz, in the end we're all thieves. And hell, we all entered BT with the sole motive of breaking the rules. And we're all guilty of stealing. How can we blame some of those people who took it to the next level?

With reference to your post:

1.I have never seen anyone in btracs, while I was there, bragging about how powerful they are or the level of trackers they have. And about demanding respect. Well, staff is there for a reason. I don't see why anyone should disrespect them while at their forum. And as for members, I've seen braggarts and l33t get their asses kicked out for the same reason. And before making such a statement, please make sure you have some evidence to support it.

2. About the cheating riddle. As far as I can see, btracs or any other trading/selling forum is only doing to trackers, what trackers are doing to the society and artists. So, its nothing to make a fuss about. In simple words, its just like robbing Robin Hood right after he robs the rich. I'd call them smart or clever.

I respect them because, except for the few nuts in there who are crazy about trading and selling, I've seen, met and am still in contact with some of the members who has never even visited the Trade/Sell section of the forum. And those people amounts to 80% of the active members now. I've seen more people posting in Requests/Giveaways than the Trade/Sell section. Which makes me wonder if its the same forum we're talking about.
 
We have all been using the Internet for a long time. I would think by now it is common sense that no password is safe in a forum because you don't know who encrypts there user databases or not and I would have to say the same goes for the trackers themselves.
 
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