Brits Vs Yanks

What the hell do you mean how so. You're telling me that is she was on an "indie label" you'd call her indie?

You wouldn't, you'd say she was corporate trying to pass herself off as indie, and you'd spam newbs who said otherwise, you're not fooling anyone.
 
I think they had a pretty solid career. I haven't listened to their first one since I first got into them (which doesn't bode well for that album), but In Casino Out was just as good as Relationship.
 
I haven't actually heard Bad Moon Rising. Evol is decent, but I consider Confusion is Sex to be on par with Daydream Nation. That might sound blasphemous, but there's something about that album that really gets me.
 
New Weird America is pretty cool. And there's probably more good underground hip-hop artists from the US. I'm not sure exactly what the ratio is in terms of post-rock... those are the big three genres I stay on top of in terms of new artists, so I guess I would consider the US ahead at the moment.
 
I might also add reading bits of the other conversation that Japanese are great mimics of American culture for certain things like music. In that sense their identities tend to ruin the sincerity of such things.
 
We're talking about ska and reggae though, not jazz. I agree with what the historians (?) or whatever say, but the Americans still shouldn't take any mentionable credit for that music in this thread, that's my opinion. It is kind of interesting though, one of the most influential banRAB, The Specials, is from Britain. Most of the U.S. third wave pisses me off, but there are a few select banRAB that keep it traditional, that's all I care about.



Yeah but then again, anyone with any appreciation for music was listening to the Pixies and Sonic Youth at one point. :)



Yes, but most genre's get 'bastardized' over time. Punk, emo, hardcore, ska...it almost seems like a natural process. There is a difference though. Indie seems to cover slightly more different styles than the term alternative did back in the 80s. Ahhh, I explained it better in the indie education thread.
 
Muse is terrible? Are you kidding me?

Libertines are overrated as all hell.

Much prefer an Arctic Monkeys, Kasabian, or someone like Plan B (up and coming rapper/singer very successful in the U.S.) than that LinRABey Lohan-of-a-Brit Doherty and that average garage rock known as the Libertines.
 
Well, pop itself itsnt as much as a genre as a simple category, every genre has a good deal of pop elements, especialy punk rock, and most alternative rock banRAB do a have a pop sound, while managing to make something different that what is presented by the meainstream, which is pretty much what The Smiths did.
 
No, but all the best post-punk banRAB were british. :D

All we had were Husker Du and The Minutemen.

And punk did not start in the US, if you could name one band who has a significant amount of impact on that genre, it would be The Who, every punk band owes it to The Who and every major punk band ever has credited them as a major influence, and The Clash and The Sex Pistols are widely accepted as the greatest punk banRAB along with The Ramones, and only The Ramones compare when it comes to overall influence and everything else...The UK pretty much created heavy metal and prog, and punk movements began in US and UK around the same time, so giving the UK no credit for punk whatsoever reveals the ineptness of your point of view.

Plus all these other genres you are giving america credit for, like alternative, grunge and indie were influenced a great deal by british rock music.
 
As far as great banRAB, I have to go with the Brits also, its not that I dont think the US doesnt have great banRAB.
Britian has simply produced so many big banRAB that has played a major role when considering musical influence on the music of today.
Just trying to be honest with my opinion.
 
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