Brandon Flipflops on P4Invites

I think I read on the FTN forums that B is doing what is best for the site, even though it may go against his personal ethics. I don't see anything wrong with what FTN is doing, and I always liked the way ScT operated as well.

Does Brandon pocket any of the $$ he raises? Did SCT staff pocket any money, or did those donations go to servers and scene axx? If not, then I don't see any reasons to complain. Even if so, I personally wouldn't care. I'm in it for the warez, not for the ethics of it all.
 
pro267 said:
If a site issues invites to all contributing members, among which are donors, than I have no problem with that. If, however, invites are only given to donors, then I do feel that that's crossing a line that shouldn't have been crossed in a reputable site such as this.
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Well said. Personally I don't care what FTN wants to do with their site, it's their site after all. But as a matter of principle I can't agree with P2I it's just plain wrong in my opinion.

@truesounds, I doubt B is making anything off of FTN, SCT however I wouldn't be so sure.
 
Roark said:
Gee, how surprising is it that a friend of Brandon's would want to quickly turn the page. Those of us who've had to suffer his holier-than-thou attitude for years are enjoying seeing the person who just couldn't imagine why a site might need to sell invites/gigs to raise money brought down a peg or two.
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LOL, well you just went from moron to complete idiot in about 15 seconds. I am friends with Brandon, I am also friends with Feeling and even Swax/Deviant. For you to insinuate that I would even participate in the whole SCT/FTN thing is just stupid of you. I refused to take a side then so I'm not going to start now. I have stuck up for SCT more times than you could possibly know about. So why not do a little research before you go shooting your mouth off like an a55hole, k, thanks.

I'm not going to presume what B's motives are as I don't give a 5hit. His site his business. The same thing I said about Fee when many people looked down on SCT for offering invites as a perk of donating. If the site needs money than offering invites is a good way of giving the donations a boost.

Swax said:
Detale said:
Are you really going to try and dig up the FTN/SCT brawl again?
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:whistling

Brandon criticised Feeling when ScT sold invites, and said it was wrong. He's now realised he has to do that to achieve enough donations.

ScT always had enough donations through the invites and upload credit it rewarded donors with. Sure this was against the ethics of file sharing, but if it keeps the site running then so be it. Nobody's being forced to pay, the 5% of users who choose to donate keep the site running for the 95% of people who are too cheap to donate.

Whatever happens with those donations behind the scenes is anybody's guess, and everyone is allowed their opinion on what truly happens with it, but at the end of the day people have to realise that those people are donating willingly to keep the site up. If the site stays up then you have no reason to complain.

Big egos and donations really don't make a good combination, but it's better than the combination of 4736 ex-FTN users and no site.
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Hoi bud. Well put comment BTW ;) You know me dude, I kept out of all of this crap then and now. Honestly, this moron just annoyed me as it seems his motives are more about going after Brandon totally rather than pointing out 1 instance. Not to mention he just sounds like a whiny little girl doing it.
 
adrenalin said:
what you think about me is really unimportant but I believe you are someone who think he is the king and always right.
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Oh lord, why do people do this? Just because someone can hold their own in a debate/argument does not mean they think they are right. Matter of fact, if someone knows they are right, outright, they will simply skim over the issue and completely ignore any comments. The fact that someone is arguing means they are willing to hear out different opinions on the subject; so I really suggest you stop sticking people on a podium when they have done nothing to show any ego.
 
If you don't care, feel free to post your 3400th post in the 1000th which 0-day tracker is best thread then.
What do you want, everyone to agree with you? :wank:
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No, like most people, I much prefer it when everyone disagrees with me :unsure:
 
ca_aok said:
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I'd be surprised if he can even bench half that 185.
 
Roark said:
I don't care how sites raise money. I do, however, enjoy taunting childish site owners who delete posts of people who point out their hypocrisy. Let's see him delete these.
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I notice how you didn't answer Artemis' question about if it bothers you that much why not delete your account and be done with it. Seems pretty hypocritical to stay at a place that one disagrees with how it is run or who it is run by. Or is it a stupid level status thing for you?
 
Artemis said:
If this hypocrisy boils your bunny so much simply delete your a/c? Or are you going to be hypocritic and continue to use a tracker where you object to them generating money to pay for the server ? Go on be a man, where are your balls ? Surely if this is such sacrilege a quick pm to staff and all your problems are solved, you can carry on downloading files with a clear conscience from the other trackers out there.
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I don't care how sites raise money. I do, however, enjoy taunting childish site owners who delete posts of people who point out their hypocrisy. Let's see him delete these.
 
deadalive1 said:
I notice how you didn't answer Artemis' question about if it bothers you that much why not delete your account and be done with it. Seems pretty hypocritical to stay at a place that one disagrees with how it is run or who it is run by. Or is it a stupid level status thing for you?
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Why is it hypocritical to stay at a place where you disagree who runs it or how it's run? I disagree with who runs the government and how it is run, as do most people; it doesn't mean I just up and leave to create my own country.

I also really couldn't be less bothered about how FTN raises money, nor whether Brandon is keeping any of it. What does bother me is his self-righteous, preening attitude and now, censorship. Why should I sit quietly when I know it bothers him when threads like this one are made?
 
deadalive1 said:
I notice how you didn't answer Artemis' question about if it bothers you that much why not delete your account and be done with it. Seems pretty hypocritical to stay at a place that one disagrees with how it is run or who it is run by. Or is it a stupid level status thing for you?
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Cause he's a pussy maybe?
 
.02$ Give Away!

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Have issues with the way a site is being run by the owner?
Use 'delacct.php' or send a PM to the owner to sod off.
That should help you get rid of the account you are so uncomfortable using.. and the rant would make you feel good at the same time.
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/me forgot to add: kthxbai
 
adrenalin said:
The hype about FTN is big, heh? The site owner can say everything.
He can sell invites, selling them on ebay or whatever. You can stop using this site! The site owner can doing everything and you must following him or not.
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Well that added fuck all to the debate. Severe head trauma and forums do not a good mix make, or are you just retarded ?
 
Roark said:
Instead of doing the honorable thing and admitting he was wrong to slander other sites for doing what was necessary to raise money, he's decided to pretend nothing's changed.

Since he's deleting all the posts on FTN's forum that mention this, clearly he's still capable of some shame. We at FST don't stand censorship and hypocrisy, do we? Let's take a couple of minutes to highlight all the posts Brandon's made in the past condemning other sites for raising money. I'll get us started with a couple from here:






This is just what I dug up in a couple of minutes - I know there are better ones out there talking about how he'd rather shut down the site than sell anything to keep it open.
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Am seeing y'all calling this guy all sorts of names but honestly I don't see anything wrong with what he said above(I mean lets be honest).Is he lying or something?coz personally I don't see any falsehood given what he's quoted.
 
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