I am more used to buying used cars, where the dealer can tell me $12,000 and I can aim for $9,000. With a new bike, I know the rules are a bit different. The MSRP on the 2009 Kawasaki Ninja 650R Brand new is $6,799. The dealer wants no less than 6,700 out the door after plates, tax, and prep fees (which I would NEVER go for prep fees if it was a car). Would I be unreasonable to ask for $6,500 out the door, or is $6,500 even too much for this bike? I also take into account that this is not the season to sell bikes, therefore the dealer should work a bit harder for me since its January and not April. What do you guys think?