Boehner Plan Tabled 59-41

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He had to add in a clause that would force the adoption of the Balanced Budget Amendment at the next request for debt ceiling increase so that he could get enough votes from the Republicans to even pass his own bill.

There wasn't bipartisan support for it.
There was bipartisan disapproval in both the House and Senate.

Maybe now we can start actually compromising for a deal rather than putting forth far right or far left legislation and pretending that either are bipartisan efforts that "the country wants".
 
The Boehner bill will now be stripped of stupid shit like the balanced budget amendment, will have some stuff added to it, will pass the senate and the House Democrats (with help from some Republicans) will handle the business like adults and ensure the nation doesn't default.
 
Dems should push for a FAIR TAXATION AMENDMENT, demanding a tax bracket with the old 70% top rate.


They are already compromising with spending cuts.
 
What the fuck is wrong with these congressmen? You can't keep running deficits! You are a fucking durabass if you do not support a balanced budget amendment. There is no good argument for running deficits. You either have the money to do things or you don't.
 
There are EXCELLENT reasons to run deficits. Such as RIGHT NOW, when the government should ideally introduce temporary tax credits [Making Work Pay, HIRE tax credit, etc] and is spending more on job-oriented programs [worker re-training, unemployment benefits, business loans, etc] because of the recession.

If the government reduces taxes with tax credits and pays out more in job programs, then it is pulling in less money and spending out more which almost certainly would put a government into deficit.

The problem is that some idiot pissed away the budget surplus that would have helped balance out the times of deficits. Hopefully, the next time the country's economy is growing decently, we won't have idiots in government who still decide that it's fine to add huge deficit-creating programs and never worry about returning to surplus.
 
Republicans have walked themselves into a bit of a corner. They wanted dollar for dollar extension of the ceiling for cuts in spending.

So now a small rise in the ceiling won't pass because to many in the Republican Party, the cuts aren't sufficient enough. So they add in ridiculous amendments to the constitution as clauses.

A large dollar for dollar rise in the ceiling won't pass because it would push this political tool and talking point's next arrival to after the election cycle and cost them valuable Obama smearing material.

They're stuck, they can't get the votes for either unless the later is some form of the Ryan budget, which the Dem's will never pass anyways.
 
Go look at the debt to the penny and look at every fiscal year. Ending debt was always more than starting debt every year for Clinton. Do you still believe the bullshit that he ran surpluses?

And sorry, keynesian theory looks good on paper but governments can't resist spending. aka buying votes
 
Gridlock is the only hope for America now. But even that won't be enough, since the Republicrats clearly intend to vote to raise the debt ceiling.
 
Yeah, because doing what 49 of 50 states does (balanced budget amendment) and fixing the problem once and for all is really stupid.

You're a fucking idiot.

But hey, now that the majority have voted FOR it ... if the country defaults, it's on the Democrats. Congrats DIMs, you now OWN the default. Enjoy it.
 
Well, thinking there is a legislative final solution to over spending, or even just budget problems is just another flavor of stupid, asshole.
 
Then you are saying there isn't a legislative solution then?

Fine, fucking shoot the politicians in the fucking head, start the revolution and slaughter every prick who got us into this mess.

That's the spirit!
 
Oh I did check the Treasury. And guess what they had to say:"For fiscal 1999, the unified
budget reported a surplus of
$124.4 billion. For the same pe-
riod, the Financial Report re-
ports an excess of revenue over
cost of $76.9 billion. The differ-
ence between these two amounts
occurs be cause they are pre-
pared primarily on different
measurement bases to carry out
their different objectives."

and

"For fiscal 2000, the unified budget reported a surplus of $236.9 billion. For the same period, the Financial Report of the United States Government reports an excess of revenue over cost of $46.0 billion."

You're more than welcome to pull up the Treasury site for yourself and stop believing GOP propaganda.
http://fms.treas.gov/fr/99frusg/99suppl.pdf
http://fms.treas.gov/fr/00frusg/00suppl.pdf


The government brought in more money than they spent under Clinton either way you measure it... period.
 
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