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Bride of Christ
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the hearers of the law? but the doers of the law are justified in the sight of God. But then in Romans 3:28 it says man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. Can you shed some light ?
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Bible scholars I need your help...I am confused. In Romans 2:13 it says that not
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Teri
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i think it means that you need both works and faith for be justified by God.
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dave c
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There are two aspects to the spiritual life which comes after you have died to the old man (your prior life). One is called sanctification and the other is called justification.
We cannot sanctify ourselves. That is the work of the Holy Spirit in our spiritual life. When we first come to Jesus, though, He sanctifies us in that moment and, in that moment, we are saved. In that moment, there is nothing more to be done for our salvation. But, life goes on. Likely, in the very next moment we may sin. Why does that happen? Though Jesus had sanctified us, we were not yet perfected. Thus, the Holy Spirit continues that work of sanctification throughout our lives. The Holy Spirit's influence is what keeps us coming back to Christ for sanctification.
In the mean time, what are we to do? Just as faith brought us to Christ in the first place, it is by faith that we begin to demonstrate our willingness to keep all of God's Law. This is justification. Justification is not about being perfect, it is only about demonstrating a willingness, by faith, to keep all of God's Law at the same time that the Holy Spirit continues to sanctify us to the point where Jesus Christ's requirement of us (Mat. 5:48) becomes a reality -- we become perfect.
Demonstrating that faith justifies us *in* our faith. But a live, viable faith, results in a desire to keep all of God's Law -- which further justifies us. As we become perfected (sanctified), we become better able to keep all of God's Law perfectly. Each time we keep one of God's Laws, we are justified by that action. "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?" (James 2:21) Why was he justfied? Because he obeyed out of a love for God -- not out of a sense of duty. If we aren't willing to obey (justified), then it proves we are not really saved (sanctified), either.
God bless.
We cannot sanctify ourselves. That is the work of the Holy Spirit in our spiritual life. When we first come to Jesus, though, He sanctifies us in that moment and, in that moment, we are saved. In that moment, there is nothing more to be done for our salvation. But, life goes on. Likely, in the very next moment we may sin. Why does that happen? Though Jesus had sanctified us, we were not yet perfected. Thus, the Holy Spirit continues that work of sanctification throughout our lives. The Holy Spirit's influence is what keeps us coming back to Christ for sanctification.
In the mean time, what are we to do? Just as faith brought us to Christ in the first place, it is by faith that we begin to demonstrate our willingness to keep all of God's Law. This is justification. Justification is not about being perfect, it is only about demonstrating a willingness, by faith, to keep all of God's Law at the same time that the Holy Spirit continues to sanctify us to the point where Jesus Christ's requirement of us (Mat. 5:48) becomes a reality -- we become perfect.
Demonstrating that faith justifies us *in* our faith. But a live, viable faith, results in a desire to keep all of God's Law -- which further justifies us. As we become perfected (sanctified), we become better able to keep all of God's Law perfectly. Each time we keep one of God's Laws, we are justified by that action. "Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?" (James 2:21) Why was he justfied? Because he obeyed out of a love for God -- not out of a sense of duty. If we aren't willing to obey (justified), then it proves we are not really saved (sanctified), either.
God bless.
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Just me
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Our faith will automatically make us hearers & doers of the law.
The Holy Spirit makes it happen inside of us... after we have been saved.
The Holy Spirit makes it happen inside of us... after we have been saved.
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chaz
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The three tenses of justification have often been confused, causing some of the great problems of understanding Paul. If we keep them both plainly distinguished and appropriately interrelated, clarity, and perhaps even agreement, might follow. If justification is about belonging to a single family, it would be good if that family—and its friends—could try to agree about what it means.
I will not shorten this article:
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_BR_Shape_Justification.htm
cheers,
Chaz
I will not shorten this article:
http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_BR_Shape_Justification.htm
cheers,
Chaz
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EM-water2
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Because if we christians we die to sin , and we obey. If we do not do what was commanded , then we do not belong to christ. This verse refers to the fact that do not continue in sin... and faith brings in the holy spirit, and that holy spirit kicks out what god does not want. It is all interrelated.
1 John 3:6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
This also goes along with people who claim to be christians, but dont do anything the bible says...
Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him.
Revelation 14:12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
IF WE HAVE FAITH, THEN WE ARE FAITHFUL
1 John 3:6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
This also goes along with people who claim to be christians, but dont do anything the bible says...
Titus 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him.
Revelation 14:12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
IF WE HAVE FAITH, THEN WE ARE FAITHFUL