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buckinbronco
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yes you can but i dont know if its legal.
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i hate tv
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I would just do the basic move too
I believe right now, it will be covered to install a HD receiver, purchased or rental
If you do have a second tv in the house, you may want to ask the installer if he could "tone" the line out for you, and mark it, or ask him what it would cost to install 2 diplexors (the diplexors will allow you to have tv in both locations with no added cable needed, as long as there is cable already in the locations)
Sorry if the above sounds confusing
This will allow you to watch your PVR on your second tv (both tv's will have the same channel mind you) but it is nice to have your PVR working in the bedroom too
I believe right now, it will be covered to install a HD receiver, purchased or rental
If you do have a second tv in the house, you may want to ask the installer if he could "tone" the line out for you, and mark it, or ask him what it would cost to install 2 diplexors (the diplexors will allow you to have tv in both locations with no added cable needed, as long as there is cable already in the locations)
Sorry if the above sounds confusing
This will allow you to watch your PVR on your second tv (both tv's will have the same channel mind you) but it is nice to have your PVR working in the bedroom too
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oorwully
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Diplexors,...lol,..now that's a new one to me....more reading required.
I had my PVR set up to feed two TV's before, one in the living room where it sat, and the other in the bedroom. Utilized the cable out and existing cable in the apt. to do that. Also had a IR sensor/wireless transmitter for the remote to work in both rooms, worked flawlessly.
I had my PVR set up to feed two TV's before, one in the living room where it sat, and the other in the bedroom. Utilized the cable out and existing cable in the apt. to do that. Also had a IR sensor/wireless transmitter for the remote to work in both rooms, worked flawlessly.
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I_Want_My_HDTV
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I was told to take my SW44 as Bell would not supply a new one. That was about 18 months ago. Bell will supply a 2 LNBs and SW21s but it doesn't hurt to have a spare LNB.
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Nimiq 1
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The 2700 should not show as a Rental receiver on your existing account, if you took it over from someone else, unless they were Renting, which is doubtful.
You can and should still be eligible for a Free Move promotion, which would get that receiver installed at the new house for Free.
You can and should still be eligible for a Free Move promotion, which would get that receiver installed at the new house for Free.
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Angelfish
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Thanks for the information
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haystack
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Angelfish this is in no way a questioning of pinza opinion but it would be interesting to find out what happens if you don't mind.
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Angelfish
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At my old residence I have 2 dishes (20" oval) installed. Both dishes have similar setup in that they both have 2 sw21. I will eventually take one of them with me (for spare LNB and switches). I told the Bell CSR that I need 2 sw21's installed with the new dish and did not mention of taking the old dish with me. I can install the sish myself but it is Winter and I don't much feel like being Superman on a ladder. 
I am more interested in the technicial wiring up the connections for me and drilling through the walls. I will only be install 3 of my recievers and de-commisioning my 2700. (don;t need it anymore, use to use it for kids room (no longer needed)(you can read between the lines). I will be taking my recievers with me so that they are available when the tech does the install. I also am not going to be getting a phone line. I have a cell phone and don't want to get a phone line just so Bell can get more money out of me. I never order PPV. If I ever need to order something the house I'm moving to does have a phone line connection already. If Bell asks I will give them that number.
I am more interested in the technicial wiring up the connections for me and drilling through the walls. I will only be install 3 of my recievers and de-commisioning my 2700. (don;t need it anymore, use to use it for kids room (no longer needed)(you can read between the lines). I will be taking my recievers with me so that they are available when the tech does the install. I also am not going to be getting a phone line. I have a cell phone and don't want to get a phone line just so Bell can get more money out of me. I never order PPV. If I ever need to order something the house I'm moving to does have a phone line connection already. If Bell asks I will give them that number.
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visiter555
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Based on my last move, take the LNBs and the switch (and the power inserter!!!!) with you.
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Pinza
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The Tech should install an SW44 for you at the rear of the Dish, hooking up your 3 receivers will still leave you a spre port for future use.
You can still take the second Dish asembly with you if you choose to.
Extra cost should be $100 for the 2nd & 3rd receivers.
You can still take the second Dish asembly with you if you choose to.
Extra cost should be $100 for the 2nd & 3rd receivers.
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57
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Once you move out, you should get your own account, otherwise you're account splitting, which is illegal. If BTV calls to check on this (asking you to read codes from all the STBs), you or your parents could be "in trouble".
If this were legal, you'd have all the children of a family piggybacking on one account as they left home.
If this were legal, you'd have all the children of a family piggybacking on one account as they left home.
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i hate tv
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Diplexors sound fancy, but are pretty simple
Imagine that you have an outlet in your living room, and in your master bedroom, with 1 end of the cable hooked up to the wall plate, and the other end down in the basement, at the hydro panel
Usually, the satellite installer will utilize your existing cable, running a line from the dish to the hydro panel, and then connecting to your existing cable up to the living room
If this was the case, you could use a diplexor
It looks just like a 2 way splitter
It allows for satellite signal to travel one direction, and the output from the box in the other direction
You would have 1 diplexor behind your 5900
It would have one cable going into the 5900 "sat in"
And another cable "out to tv"
The remaining port would be hooked up to the wallplate behind the 5900
Down in the basement, you would have another diplexor
1 leg would be hooked up to the line from the living room
1 leg would be going out to the satellite dish
1 leg would be going to the master bedroom
This situation is nice when you don't want to have to run additional cable, and for a few bucks ($10-$20) for the diplexors, you can have Pvr in another room as well
I hope I have made it simpler to understand
Good luck with your install
Imagine that you have an outlet in your living room, and in your master bedroom, with 1 end of the cable hooked up to the wall plate, and the other end down in the basement, at the hydro panel
Usually, the satellite installer will utilize your existing cable, running a line from the dish to the hydro panel, and then connecting to your existing cable up to the living room
If this was the case, you could use a diplexor
It looks just like a 2 way splitter
It allows for satellite signal to travel one direction, and the output from the box in the other direction
You would have 1 diplexor behind your 5900
It would have one cable going into the 5900 "sat in"
And another cable "out to tv"
The remaining port would be hooked up to the wallplate behind the 5900
Down in the basement, you would have another diplexor
1 leg would be hooked up to the line from the living room
1 leg would be going out to the satellite dish
1 leg would be going to the master bedroom
This situation is nice when you don't want to have to run additional cable, and for a few bucks ($10-$20) for the diplexors, you can have Pvr in another room as well
I hope I have made it simpler to understand
Good luck with your install
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oorwully
Guest
Install went perfect, actually have 100% on signal strength and had them run a second line as well, thanks for all the advice! Now I'll wait for the foliage to arrive in spring and see how the signal fares then.
Now, to find a used receiver and get the second line in use. Sadly will have to upgrade the TV, it didn't survive the move.
Now, to find a used receiver and get the second line in use. Sadly will have to upgrade the TV, it didn't survive the move.
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Nimiq 1
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The only reason I say to get new wiring is if they are entitled to it under either the Move Promo or Free installation offers.
It can mean less problems down the line.
Existing RG6 can be used but the installer must check for cable integrity and splitters etc fully before finishing the installation.
It can mean less problems down the line.
Existing RG6 can be used but the installer must check for cable integrity and splitters etc fully before finishing the installation.
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Pinza
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Oh I agree 100%.
Bell keep telling Instalation Co's that they will provide "All the required equipment to supply the level of service enjoyed at the previous location to the Move location".
I read this as;
A customer with 4 HD Receivers/Tuners would get, Dish 2 X LNBF's & SW44.
A customer with 4 SD Receivers/Tuners would get, Dish 1 X LNBF & SW42.
Etc.
NOTE, only 1 line would be run Free Of Charge (Dual Tuner would get 2 lines but would be counted as 1 for a Move order) the rest would be $50 each.
So if I were moving and had a 9200 & 2 x 3100's, I would have the 9200 installed as the "first" free receiver and pay for 2 lines at $50 each. Some Techs will try to tell you that only 1 single line is included, so they can get paid for 3 extra lines not 2.
Bell keep telling Instalation Co's that they will provide "All the required equipment to supply the level of service enjoyed at the previous location to the Move location".
I read this as;
A customer with 4 HD Receivers/Tuners would get, Dish 2 X LNBF's & SW44.
A customer with 4 SD Receivers/Tuners would get, Dish 1 X LNBF & SW42.
Etc.
NOTE, only 1 line would be run Free Of Charge (Dual Tuner would get 2 lines but would be counted as 1 for a Move order) the rest would be $50 each.
So if I were moving and had a 9200 & 2 x 3100's, I would have the 9200 installed as the "first" free receiver and pay for 2 lines at $50 each. Some Techs will try to tell you that only 1 single line is included, so they can get paid for 3 extra lines not 2.
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kevin7m
Guest
I'm moving next month and I'm going to get my Bell TV service moved to my new house (there isn't a dish installed there).
I just want to find out if I should be worried about Bell messing stuff up or does this kind of thing usually go smoothly. I just don't want to get any surprises or unexpected costs.
Thanx for any info.
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I just want to find out if I should be worried about Bell messing stuff up or does this kind of thing usually go smoothly. I just don't want to get any surprises or unexpected costs.
Thanx for any info.
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srivard
Guest
Just moved last weekend. When I called bell in mid-June to schedule the move, they said leave everything there, so I did. On Monday, the installer came over to the new house, asked if I had taken the old switch, I said no, that I was told to leave it and he said it wasn't a problem, he gave me a new one. I had no problems whatsoever with the install, everything form dish down to receiver is all new and no hassle. Mind you, with Bell who knows, the $150 for the switch may show up on my next bill ... :-(
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patman92
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Just to clear things up in this thread (I was having a good chuckle reading - seems like an Abbott and Costello routine ;-)), newwestdj was talking about the place where he/she lives was a rental - not the 2700...
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djino
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I currently live in Gatineau, Quebec renting a 9241 and I own a 6131.
I will be moving into a house (still within Gatineau) on June 1st. Along with the move, I plan on buying another 6131, along with starting a 2nd rental of the 9241.
What kind of charges can I expect in relation to this move
1) Moving existing 9241 Rental to new house
2) Moving existing 6131 owned receiver to new house
3) Buying a new 6131 to use at new house
4) Starting a new rental of 9241 to use at new house
After reading the Moving thread, can I expect the following charges
1) *Free - first receiver
2) $50
3) $50
4) *unsure, since its a new rental I'm starting
djino
"Anyone have any ideas?"
I will be moving into a house (still within Gatineau) on June 1st. Along with the move, I plan on buying another 6131, along with starting a 2nd rental of the 9241.
What kind of charges can I expect in relation to this move
1) Moving existing 9241 Rental to new house
2) Moving existing 6131 owned receiver to new house
3) Buying a new 6131 to use at new house
4) Starting a new rental of 9241 to use at new house
After reading the Moving thread, can I expect the following charges
1) *Free - first receiver
2) $50
3) $50
4) *unsure, since its a new rental I'm starting
djino
"Anyone have any ideas?"
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taxtwit
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Angelfish, you have four receivers according to your sig, so you are looking at paying $150 extra to have the installer set up all four. Furthermore, Bell will only give you at your new place what you have at your old place, meaning SW21s, which will limit you to your two HD receivers (or one HD receiver and two SD receivers). If you want all four to work, you'll also have to pay for a SW44 which will cost you even more, esp. since buying one from Bell costs 2 to 3 times what you can pick up one off ebay, etc. Don't be surprised if your total bill for complete installation of all four is $250+.
If this cost is of no concern to you, read no further. If you'd like to be fully set up for as little cost as possible, the cheapest way to do it is to ensure the installer does nothing other than a "basic" install with one extra line ($50), i.e. two lines into the house off the dish. Then buy a DPP Twin LNB and either a DP34 switch (or DPP44 switch, if you want to "future proof", i.e. think you might eventually get a dual tuner HD-PVR) off of ebay, etc. and swap these LNB/switches for the ones that come with the basic install, which you can then sell (along with the ones you take from your old house - see Haystack's post above) to recoup some of your costs. Depending on what the DPP LNB & switch costs you and what you can get for the LNBs/SW21s you sell, you might even break even, v. (as noted above) $250+ to have the installer do it.
If this cost is of no concern to you, read no further. If you'd like to be fully set up for as little cost as possible, the cheapest way to do it is to ensure the installer does nothing other than a "basic" install with one extra line ($50), i.e. two lines into the house off the dish. Then buy a DPP Twin LNB and either a DP34 switch (or DPP44 switch, if you want to "future proof", i.e. think you might eventually get a dual tuner HD-PVR) off of ebay, etc. and swap these LNB/switches for the ones that come with the basic install, which you can then sell (along with the ones you take from your old house - see Haystack's post above) to recoup some of your costs. Depending on what the DPP LNB & switch costs you and what you can get for the LNBs/SW21s you sell, you might even break even, v. (as noted above) $250+ to have the installer do it.