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derek_bowen
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Don't know if anyone has noticed, but FS has both HD Receivers on clearance on their website, would this be a sign that new boxes on their way soon?
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Nimiq 1
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Here we go a brief and very amateur photographic account of this Earth Shattering Event.
Here comes the Helicopter, not sure just what is was supposed to do, but after 10 minutes, it left......
The Surprise is Under the Bell Tarp, note Bell not Express Vu;
Oh oh, the "Hollywood Stunt Team" and the Men In Black;
Here comes the Helicopter, not sure just what is was supposed to do, but after 10 minutes, it left......
The Surprise is Under the Bell Tarp, note Bell not Express Vu;
Oh oh, the "Hollywood Stunt Team" and the Men In Black;
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Angelfish
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Wondering if thier is any earth shattering news comming from this event
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Nimiq 1
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The problem I saw first hand is the the people doing the actual edumacating, don't fully understand HD, they are just pushing soon to be obsolete 9200's and 6100's.
Well I attended the Bell ExpressVu Full HD launch today and personally found it to be a tremendous waste of time.
I have attended a lot of PR and marketing events and honestly I have to say that this was perhaps the worst PR event that I have ever attended.
Despite the press release saying the event would start at 10:15 am sharp, it did not.
Here is what happened...
After waiting 25 minutes, a black helicopter flew up to near where we were standing and hovered for ten minutes. I have no idea why this helicopter was there but after it departed, a bunch of guys in black suits and sunglasses (think Men in Black) got on top of a trailer and pulled back a tarpaulin revealing a beaver with a welders helmet on and the words that movies without HD are like action movies without explosives.
I assume that the helicopter and guys in suits were supposed to be the feeling we get when we watch Bell Full HD.
Five minutes later, a women in spandex and another guy two fell off the BEV trailer onto some cardboard boxes. (I presume that was the Hollywood stunt team)
Fifteen minutes later (about 45 minutes after it started) the ExpressVu people let us into the trailer where we viewed three televisions playing HD signals and three televisions which were showing the same 16:9 images but compressed into a 4:3 image on a Widescreen tv.
The squashed images were described as "analog tv" (despite having come from ExpressVu) and the rest were HD signals.
They were going to show us some HD presentation but then I would have had to wait another 5 minutes while a tv crew from a Bell Globemedia station got their story first.
At that point, I left the trailer and was given a plastic water bottle that said ExpressVu on it. No press people were there to answer questions, no one explained what just happened and so after almost an hour after arriving, I left still trying to figure it all out.
I have no idea what happened to Shannon because there was no verbal announcement or anyone that could answer any of my questions.
Lets call it a "failure to launch!"
I have attended a lot of PR and marketing events and honestly I have to say that this was perhaps the worst PR event that I have ever attended.
Despite the press release saying the event would start at 10:15 am sharp, it did not.
Here is what happened...
After waiting 25 minutes, a black helicopter flew up to near where we were standing and hovered for ten minutes. I have no idea why this helicopter was there but after it departed, a bunch of guys in black suits and sunglasses (think Men in Black) got on top of a trailer and pulled back a tarpaulin revealing a beaver with a welders helmet on and the words that movies without HD are like action movies without explosives.
I assume that the helicopter and guys in suits were supposed to be the feeling we get when we watch Bell Full HD.
Five minutes later, a women in spandex and another guy two fell off the BEV trailer onto some cardboard boxes. (I presume that was the Hollywood stunt team)
Fifteen minutes later (about 45 minutes after it started) the ExpressVu people let us into the trailer where we viewed three televisions playing HD signals and three televisions which were showing the same 16:9 images but compressed into a 4:3 image on a Widescreen tv.
The squashed images were described as "analog tv" (despite having come from ExpressVu) and the rest were HD signals.
They were going to show us some HD presentation but then I would have had to wait another 5 minutes while a tv crew from a Bell Globemedia station got their story first.
At that point, I left the trailer and was given a plastic water bottle that said ExpressVu on it. No press people were there to answer questions, no one explained what just happened and so after almost an hour after arriving, I left still trying to figure it all out.
I have no idea what happened to Shannon because there was no verbal announcement or anyone that could answer any of my questions.
Lets call it a "failure to launch!"
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Nimiq 1
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Gordon proudly Proclaiming the new mission statement........
The Men In Black attempt to point, well mount the Dish, this took almost 5 minutes. If this was not intended to ever pick up signal, why install a heavy SW44 on the thing.?
The message on the rear of the Container;
The Men In Black attempt to point, well mount the Dish, this took almost 5 minutes. If this was not intended to ever pick up signal, why install a heavy SW44 on the thing.?
The message on the rear of the Container;
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Nimiq 1
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And the final picture, abandon hope all ye who enter here........
I wonder with hindsight, if the Helicopter, was supposed to lift the Blue Tart from the Container, revealing the new Mission Statement......Could be that the wind was too strong.
Hugh, do you know what City this Event will be in next, I might just go for a Drive........See if it gets any more exciting......
I wonder with hindsight, if the Helicopter, was supposed to lift the Blue Tart from the Container, revealing the new Mission Statement......Could be that the wind was too strong.
Hugh, do you know what City this Event will be in next, I might just go for a Drive........See if it gets any more exciting......
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SensualPoet
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I accept these were the findings. I simply don't believe them. 90% of Canadians will tell you al sorts of things. The survey, or the extrapolation, is flawed. With something on the order of 2 million households having a "recent" $1500+ HDTV, I can't believe "most" have no ability to watch HD.
Perhaps in 2005 ... but by 2007 there was tons of HD programming on cable and satellite TV and enough time to raise awareness. "Majority of HDTV owners" without an HD signal? Nope, doesn't compute.
Perhaps in 2005 ... but by 2007 there was tons of HD programming on cable and satellite TV and enough time to raise awareness. "Majority of HDTV owners" without an HD signal? Nope, doesn't compute.
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my0gr81
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42" Sony LCD was $4000 discounted (through sales and giveaways), $4900 full retail. Ask me how I know.
A year later, Sony discontinued their LCD line only to bring it back this year.
Bell is trying to educate but they also did the same a few years ago when they had those commercials about "All Digital, All the time". Sure, their signal was "all digital", but they failed to mention that this was an inherant technology requirement and that they compressed their streams to the maximum.
The education of HD has to start at the source of the media, the networks and content provider have to do their part, and then the retail channel has to do their part. Ask a FSuck/B****Buy sales guy about the difference between HD on OTA through an ATSC tuner and HD through one of the provider's STB and watch them squirm.
A year later, Sony discontinued their LCD line only to bring it back this year.Bell is trying to educate but they also did the same a few years ago when they had those commercials about "All Digital, All the time". Sure, their signal was "all digital", but they failed to mention that this was an inherant technology requirement and that they compressed their streams to the maximum.
The education of HD has to start at the source of the media, the networks and content provider have to do their part, and then the retail channel has to do their part. Ask a FSuck/B****Buy sales guy about the difference between HD on OTA through an ATSC tuner and HD through one of the provider's STB and watch them squirm.
I think is pretty obvious they are referring to those consumers with HDTV's who don't have a HD video source attached to it.
Many consumers with HDTV think that by only having a HDTV they are getting the full experience, obviously they are not, and this is what this campaign seems to be all about.
Many consumers with HDTV think that by only having a HDTV they are getting the full experience, obviously they are not, and this is what this campaign seems to be all about.
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DrAkO
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(in my dream) New MPEG 4 receivers with all the HD channels Bell missed at this time...+ free upgrade for all customers they have a 9200!!!!
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Nimiq 1
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Hugh , you forgot he highlight of the entire morning, I got 2 packets of Skittles.........
Did you notice the Guy on the roof struggling to mount the Dish....lol
Then it was pointed in the wrong direction, I asked about the Dish and was told that it was too windy for the Dish to be aimed correctly and that it would be done correctly later today so they could have "live" HD in the 40" Container.
At least Amber McArthur looked happy to be there, she even spent time with my wife talking about another very important topic, her Boots. Which my wife described as extremely nice...... Hot HD but still nice Quality.
Oh there was also the handout below;
I witnessed on unsuspecting member of the Public, some 45 minutes after the opening of the Container ask where she could collect her "prize" for getting all 7 differences and "just what is the prize.?"
All In All a total and utter waste of time.
Did you notice the Guy on the roof struggling to mount the Dish....lol
Then it was pointed in the wrong direction, I asked about the Dish and was told that it was too windy for the Dish to be aimed correctly and that it would be done correctly later today so they could have "live" HD in the 40" Container.
At least Amber McArthur looked happy to be there, she even spent time with my wife talking about another very important topic, her Boots. Which my wife described as extremely nice...... Hot HD but still nice Quality.
Oh there was also the handout below;
I witnessed on unsuspecting member of the Public, some 45 minutes after the opening of the Container ask where she could collect her "prize" for getting all 7 differences and "just what is the prize.?"
All In All a total and utter waste of time.
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I_Want_My_HDTV
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Right... I spent about $5000 to get HDTV back in 2001 ($4000 HDTV and $1000 HDTV receiver and accessories). It was one channel, multiplexed between US HD networks (about 20 hours per week.) The CRT RPTV required service calls at about $400/yr to keep it working correctly. The HDTV channel wasn't reliable due to incredible incompetence on the part of *C... Things improved with the addition of more channels by Rogers and EV. (The Rogers HD receiver was $20/mo and the EV6000 cost $800.) Then they got worse with the introduction of simsubs and degradation of signals by EV. HD is still too expensive on the BDU side due to proprietary receivers and a protected Canadian broadcasting industry. HDTVs are getting reasonable, comparable to SDTVs in the 1990s but much better quality. Open up the Canadian market to competition from non-Canadian broadcasters and we might start getting value for our money.
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mtlscream
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so i guess a lot of money for what ??
No big announcement ? even right now, no promo (yes i forgot the PPV promo, who cares.....).
Just feel like Bell is trying to push too much what they have now (for many months)... and expect we will buy all the same stuff they were selling all yr (same packages, same recevivers)... Nothing new....
it's a little sad because they could have use this as a KO punch to Rogers, Star choice or videotron.... I guess i can become a KO punch to themself !
No big announcement ? even right now, no promo (yes i forgot the PPV promo, who cares.....).
Just feel like Bell is trying to push too much what they have now (for many months)... and expect we will buy all the same stuff they were selling all yr (same packages, same recevivers)... Nothing new....
it's a little sad because they could have use this as a KO punch to Rogers, Star choice or videotron.... I guess i can become a KO punch to themself !
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haystack
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Tv's are HD there is no choice in that ,Hd programing you have a choice not to get it if you don't care and lots don't care.
The question is not 1080,720 I or p but what does the SD reception look like.
The question is not 1080,720 I or p but what does the SD reception look like.
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ARR
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Kinda sounds like a lot of governments announcements, just repackage and announce things over and over, nothing new really
And that's the Sensual Poet we know and love, so very succinct!
May be the heavy Bell branding is to distance themselves from the affectionate CommpressVu moniker they've earned and FULL HD is actually something new for them, like when HDnet sends them 1080i like the U.S. feed, they'll broadcast it in it's native 1080i and not down shift it to 720p.
For a media company, it doesn't sound like it was very polished.
And to launch it in Toronto for a first go, maybe they should have practiced it starting in say, Moose Jaw (No offense intended) or something until they got it down a bit better.
Lots of smoke and mirrors, flash in the pan but light on substance, I guess I'm not surprised as that's my take on the rest of the organization anyways, so no real disappointment.
It's a dark day for Canadians when a company the size of Bell can't even pull of some media hype, let alone deliver on any real goods.
I was sincerely hoping they could actually do a good job and educate consumers on the need for an HD set top to deliver HD content to their HDTV's.
As only through higher adoption rates will HD truly begin to flourish and reward the early adopter.
And that's the Sensual Poet we know and love, so very succinct!
May be the heavy Bell branding is to distance themselves from the affectionate CommpressVu moniker they've earned and FULL HD is actually something new for them, like when HDnet sends them 1080i like the U.S. feed, they'll broadcast it in it's native 1080i and not down shift it to 720p.
For a media company, it doesn't sound like it was very polished.
And to launch it in Toronto for a first go, maybe they should have practiced it starting in say, Moose Jaw (No offense intended) or something until they got it down a bit better.
Lots of smoke and mirrors, flash in the pan but light on substance, I guess I'm not surprised as that's my take on the rest of the organization anyways, so no real disappointment.
It's a dark day for Canadians when a company the size of Bell can't even pull of some media hype, let alone deliver on any real goods.
I was sincerely hoping they could actually do a good job and educate consumers on the need for an HD set top to deliver HD content to their HDTV's.
As only through higher adoption rates will HD truly begin to flourish and reward the early adopter.
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bev fan
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So , do you want chinese tv provider to start operating in canada?