bearshare : proprietary download ?

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shafiqdms1

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is it impossible to download on a bearshare client ?

for example on a NORMAL gnutella client, the url are http://:/get//mymp3.mp3


on a BEARSHARE, it is
http://:/get//mymp3.mp3?auth=121fd45

the auth permits to Bearshare not to SHARE
with the gnutella community !

BAN BEARSHARE !
 
Just pay attention to the files that you're downloading with your own client. I guaranf'ing-t you that alot of these downloads are coming from Bearshare clients. Why are you complaining again?
 
In fact, I am a developper. At the moment, I am making some test with the differents clients. I didn't know that the special bearshare URL was generated for the browsers only. I will continue my test with programming instead of browser..

many thanx
 
Considering I'm uploading to 3 Gnucleus hosts, 1 Limewire host, and Zero Bearshare hosts ATM, and you're probably downloading from Bearshare hosts ATM, I'm sorry to say, but you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
 
Isn't it silly for vinnie to block browsers since bearshare has such a very, very small market share now?
I think Gnucleus allows browser downloading, and so does Morpheus (the largest market share).
What about XoloX?
 
I'm saying anyone can download from Bearshare, because I'm running Bearshare, and I upload files to non-Bearshare client, more than I upload to Bearshare clients, so I don't know what you're talking about. There's not even a setting in Bearshare to block other clients. Some people want it, with recent events that have been happening with Qtrax2 and Morpheus, but so far, Vinnie hasn't given in and let it happen, and I don't think he ever will.
 
Bearshare sux, but I think he's talking about downloading via a web browser.
Bearshare has a user selection to turn off sharing to web browsers, you can see the file list, but can't download from a browser, but if you also run bearshare or gnucleus client that allows drag and drop, you can drag the selected file from your browser and drop it on to gnucleus and it will be put into download.
It is misleading when someone brings up a menu of files but then can't download them. There should be a big, BIG warning when the user has his browser access off.
 
Isn't it silly for vinnie to block browsers since bearshare has such a very, very small market share now?

What doesn't market share matter? BearShare lets me choose to let browsers download from me or not. I personally hate leechers, so I turn off browser downloading in BearShare.
 
This is true, you can't download with a web browser from bearshare and this is why in 3.0.0 even with the web deal turned on it doesn't show any files since it would be useless, just a web page that you can change and whatever.
 
I don't have a problem against leechers.

The problem is when there is such a massive volume of leechers that regular people can't get files.

Such was the situation when BearShare was first release. BearShare was the first Gnutella servent to show the User-Agent in uploads.

All of a sudden, people were asking "Hey, what's this Mozilla, is it another Gnutella servent?".

The answer is, NO! It was browsers, and they were taking up 98 PERCENT OF ALL UPLOAD SLOTS!

It was the primary cause for busy signals in Gnutella.

MusicCity is pretty stupid for allowing browsers, now we will see those web sites that leech Gnutella and show banners spring back up like weeds, and pretty soon you will never be able to get files from Morpheus users.

Again, I don't mind freeloaders (BearShare has no anti-freeloader features), as long as the network can support both the freeloaders and the people who share.

Unfortunately, a network which allows browsers can never support everyone.
 
Vinnie explained it very well - regular users you can call them "sharer" have problem to get their files...

Many user left Gnutella because of the current situation, many uploads but only a few downloads...

I agree you can
 
Yes so the best network improvement would be to stop the browers or not?

Btw you say Morpheus allows other websites to download from them... I remember a time I think a year ago, I read something similar about bearshare...

Morgwen
 
Shareaza also supports the banning of Browsers (and any client). In fact, it comes with Mozilla already entered...

I don't see what the problem is and why any heat on Vinnie for providing something that any intelligent user would want as default.
 
in the RFC to download a file you don't need a auth parameter in the URL. I am trying to understand why Bearshare put such a thing. My own understand is that they don't want other free clients download on the Bearshare network without pay them a license. Do you agree with me ?
 
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