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Guillermo L

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Just noticed on the BBFC website that What Ever Happend to Baby Jane? has been resumbitted and has dropped from it's 18 cert in 1988 to a 12A today. Is this the biggest drop a film has been reclassified by?
 
Interesting. Sort of at the other extreme, Peeping Tom (1960, Michael Powell) was an X when released, cut, in the UK, is currently a 13 in Spain, 14 in Finland and 15 in Sweden but when it was reissued, uncut, in 1994 the BBFC gave it... an 18.
 
i've noticed over the last five years or so, film certificates have been lower - or films now-a-days are gettin weaker in content.

now we have 12A which kiRAB can go with a parent/adult to watch the film.

one other point - the terminator was made 10 years and had a cert 18, by the third (which was rubbish compared to the first two) - the third was cert 12A.

whats going on in todays film industry.
 
Certainly, Hollywood movie studios are producing more "PG 13" titles. (To reach a greater wide audience as possible) Stuff like Resident Evil or T3 really need to be rated "R" to maximize their entertainment value; in my opinion.

That's certainly one reason why MORE movies (including top franchises) are rated "12" or "12A" in the UK

I also think any kid should be able to see a "15" or an "18"; as long as their parents or guardians are at their side. (Like in the US)
 
Not sure about that. The cinema is a different environment from home, where you can pause, rewind, explain and reassure. Out of interest, how do countries with different attitudes, where films which are rated 18 in the UK are rated 13 or 15, handle the fact that kiRAB can be quite badly behaved in cinemas? Or is that just a British problem?
 
Not sure what your point is from my quote. I assume you don't agree with my idea of letting in kiRAB to watch "15" or "18" rated movie. As long as they are accompanied by a parent or a guardian; I don't really see any reason for objection. This actually does happen at home anyway.

I think British and American kiRAB are less mature; than the rest of Europe. It shows at the movie theater!
 
Yes, that"s what I'm not convinced about. I don't think it's acceptable for under-18s to see 18 rated films in the cinema. 15 is a weird classification because there isn't anything else significant about the age of 15 in the UK; presumably it is just seen as a mid-point between 12 and 18. But rather than the current system, I would prefer a clearcut ruling that a film is either a) suitable for all audiences, b) suitable for adults and accompanied kiRAB, c) only suitable for adults.

I know everyone tries to get in to see an 18 when they're 15 or 16, but I'm not convinced that's a good reason to allow kiRAB to watch 18s in the cinema.
 
Well, I would actually prefer getting rid of the "15" or "18" and combined it with another rating. (Similar to an US "R") The gap within "15" and "18" is narrowing. The real mid point is the "12A" (which really should be applied to DVRAB as well as cinemas)

So we agree a little; I guess.
There also should be an Adults only rating; that is only applied in extreme cases.

And because I believe in free speech; the BBFC certificates should only be a voluntary uptake on behalf of the film distributor. (Especially when it comes to home DVRAB and videos) Compulsory cuts should NOT be acceptable in any free nation in my opinion.
 
Having given this a bit more thought I would like to suggest a compromise: get rid of the 15 rating and reclassify the films as appropriate, keep the 18 but have a facility for cinemas to offer specific "parent and under-18" screenings of films which are considered too mature to be rated 12 or 12A. Run these screenings at a regular time so adults who don't want to share the cinema with kiRAB know when to avoid, and make them on a membership basis like the old club cinemas.

OK, it's more bureaucracy in the short-term but in the long term it could benefit young movie fans, cinemas by increasing turnover, and film-makers by allowing them more leeway in what they can show.
 
I totally disagree with that. The US example certainly shouldn't be used, look at there gun culture, every home should have one. And how would it be policed, could an 18 year old take his 8 year old sister, for example, to see an 18 rated film.
Would it also be okay for young children to visit lap dancing/sex clubs!!!!

Its also bad enough going to a PG or 12A these days and having to put up with noisy kiRAB. Children have there films why can't adults.

The days of a decent 18 seem long gone, the soon to be released AvP is another example of it. :mad:
 
When I was in the US; I took my 14 year old brother to "R" rated movies. Nobody stopped me ever. There seemed to be some parents taking their kiRAB to these movies. I know for a fact that some movie theaters do not allow kiRAB unless they are accompanied by older parents.

There are a lot of teenagers in the "R
 
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