BB or TMO Wing?

BB or TMO Wing?

My question is has anyone tried out or looked at the phone yet with any kind of user reviews because we just got 4 in store yesterday and sold out in one day, I didnt even get a chance to really look at one, has anyone else seen one?
 
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I have a feeling the wing is about to get flamed in this thread again...

It's a nice device, small and compact, with a rubberized feel. Windows mobile six still sucks though...
 
no flame is needed it will die is't own painful death.

side question, was it named the wing because it flies well after being hurled after yet another crash?
 
Yeah the windows os phones are more prone to crashing, and thats pretty much a givin... even with WM 6.0 it isnt the best phone on the market, I just like the styling of it, but i'll stick with my Pearl until the Curve hits the store hopefully in the fall
 
The Wing is a great improvement over the MDA. lighter, great form factor. BUT, it has the same shortcomings as all other WM phones. Slow processor etc
 
I have had the bb pearl since november. i got the wing about 2 days ago. it is way better.. it totally kicks but it is a laptop w/o the bulkiness...its stinkin cool.. ill be puttting my pearl on ebay real soon.
 
~via BB (wap.rabroad.com)~i had the wing too for about a week and went back to my BB, you will seriously regret getting rid of it, its internet speeds are slower and it lags so bad, and the touch screen capabilities are nice, but look at what happens from different angles. Get back to me in a couple weeks once it froze on you and it takes 25 minutes to reload 4 times a day when you send as many text messages and emails as I do, that's a lot of down time.
 
I have an HTC TyTN - very similiar to the wing. Bought it unlocked in Hong Kong. I love the thing. I will add that I dont have a plan, voice or data, for it and use only the wifi. I do some times pop my BB sim card in and use it.
Sitting on the couch surfing the net on wifi is much better than EDGE BB.
Never had the thing crash but that could be becuse I dont use it much.
 
I've had the TMo MDA since the week it was released - and a number of BB's since then. Currently using the Curve. The Wing is very similar to the MDA - just a bit smaller, rubberized coating and WM6 ...but I've already run that on my MDA...

As a toy with lots of bells & whistles, the WM devices (like the Wing) give you more flexibility - you can totally replace the UI, hack the registry, overclock the CPU, etc. But...for day to day use, in the sense of having a 100% reliable appliance that you can easily use for calls, SMS, IM, weather, scheduling, tasks - I find the Curve far more usable. My MDA was fun to play with, and I've loaded lots of different OS versions, UI replacements, profile changes, etc, etc. But today, my MDA sits idle on my desk while I won't go anywhere without my Curve. Both are equally available to me: with my BB BIS plan, I can pop my TMo SIM into either device, and I keep both fully charged. But I find myself going for the Curve every time.
 
great assessment, so I think I'll point the question to you:

if the Wing or an MDA like phone were to run the BB OS, would you go with it? with the talk from months ago of RIM developing an OS to run over WM devices , it seems it would bring the best of both worlds. HTC is gaining steam and releasing much improved handhelds and the biggest shortcoming to me is the OS. what are your thoughts?
 
Interesting question...

I like HTC products in general, and I'm guessing that they'll do good things as the market continues to grow - but I think they need to make a decision to compete more aggressively where performance counts. The HTC Touch is interesting as an indication that other companies can potentially tread where the iPhone and iPod Touch are going. But at the same time, I don't think the HTC Touch UI is as slick as Apple's UI -- it's flashy, but doesn't seem to have the same level of elegance or user-centric design. I'm also concerned that most of the HTC products I've tried in recent years feel underpowered -- almost like trying to run Windows Vista on a 600mhz PC with 500MB of RAM. For me, the HTC products have been "almost there" -- enticing, but in the end, delivering a bit less than I had hoped.

From what I've read, the BB functionality would be an add-on for Windows Mobile. I think this will get us a bit closer - but I agree with your assessment that the biggest shortcoming is the OS. I keep wanting to think that MS will eventually "get it" and turn out a rock-solid seamless product experience, but if it hasn't happened in the last 27 years, I shouldn't be holding out hope that it will happen anytime soon. MS, for some reason, couldn't make push (or even pseudo-push) email work as reliably as BB over the last couple of years, and I suspect a big part of this is the way virtually everything in Windows (PC and mobile) is interdependent -- just an incredible number of ways for less-than-perfect software to mess up other less-than-perfect software, eventually ending with the need to reboot your PC or phone at least once a day.

The BB add on for Windows Mobile will, I'm guessing, give WM users a better email experience - at least in terms of reliable and timely delivery. But it's the other parts of Windows Mobile that concern me. As far as I know, MS hasn't yet completely solved their memory leak issues, or the creeping growth of the registry (PC and mobile). On a mobile device with limited memory, memory leaks and creeping file growth (like the registry) can bring the phone to its knees.

As much as I like the flexibility of the WM user interface (at least with 3rd party add-ons), it seems that Rim has had a better overall understanding of what it takes to keep the UI clean, simple, intuitively obvious and functional. Stability, functionality, reliability and immediately intuitive operation are the areas where BB has blown away Windows Mobile (in my opinion). I think that Windows will likely continue to improve, and the BB add on will help in terms of email delivery, but if RIM is smart, they'll also continue to improve and remain competitive.

So much will depend on the decisions that MS makes. Vista is a great case in point. It's pretty, and certainly has some "slick" UI features - even some nice system integration features. But it also is riddled with bugs, it's horrendously inefficient with computer resources (especially in combination with Office 2007), and the interdependencies cause it to hang far more than XP has in years. If MS makes similar decisions with the evolution of Windows Mobile, then it may remain too unstable to make a serious dent in RIM's business user base.
 
the only htc device i'm excited about is the touch! thats hot. the wing honestly isnt a bad device. the windows 6 is pretty neat, i can probably say its like a windows vista but for a cellphone. the wing has its advantages over bb devices until t-mobile's curve comes out. one advantage of the wing is that it has built in wifi, you can create and edit word, and excel files. it uses windows media player. it's touch screen. those are all pluses for the device and some of the negatives s it has a very slow processor, if you dont remember to close applications it will slow your device down even more until it freezes and it doesn't have real push mail. having windows6 was suppose to help make it like a blackberry. they are both good devices but my customers have better luck with a blackberry than any windows devices
 
~via BB (wap.rabroad.com)~i just love my BB... No windows for me. Unless rim puts a touch screen on a curve type of phone with windows. Now that would excite me. Give me a stylus on the curve with microsoft... I think that would be kind of sweet
 
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Yea I'm down for a touchscreen bb but with the curve keyboard. No touchscreen keyboard. And I'm not sold on any windows mobile. A stylus on the rim os would be the business.
 
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