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Since there seems to be no mention of it here I thought I'd mention it.

It looks great, is a complete restart of the franchise and satrs Christian Bale, Micheal Caine, Gary Oldman, Rutger Hauger, Cillian Murphey, Liam Neeson, Ken Wantabe and Morgan Freeman... oh yeah and Joey from Dawson's in it too.

Directed by Chris Nolan (memento... yeah that's it the backwarRAB film with Guy Pearce)

Remember thsi has nothing to do with any of the precious Bat films and is set in the real world as oppossed to Gothic nightmares and Day-Glow campness.

For trailers and tv spots go here.

http://www.themoviebox.net/movies/2005/0-9ABC/BatmanBegins/trailer.php
 
This is going to be one of the big films of the summer!
I want to see Batman Begins far more than I want to see Star Wars Episode 3. This will wipe away all the bad memories of the previous sequels!
There hasnt been much hype for Batman Begins but it will be the Dark Horse of the summer films!
 
The prom material is just appearing inpublic now in the states and there have been quite a few reports on the subject. I think WB don't want to over kill the hype on this one and will begin promoting the movie about 3-4 months from it's release date... anytime now then :-)

And yeah the yanks were pretty pissed that a the movie is full of brits.
That'll teach 'em for making brits the bad guys in all their films! heh heh
 
The writer of the first (Tim Burton) "Batman" was Sam Hamm. Sam went on to write three Batman comics about how Bruce Wayne "began". ie. Who trained him in the various fighting arts, how he got his weapons, and so forth.

The Tim Burton "Batman" was also heavily influenced by Frank Millers groundbreaking "The Dark Knight Returns". But Miller got no recognition for it (something Kevin Smith brings up in an interview with him).

Miller also did the fantastic "Batman: Year one". Some of the images I've seen of "Batman Begins" have clearly been taken from that comic book (this is what got me excited about the film). But, again. Miller (nor the artist David Mazzucchelli) gets any recognition or credit for it (not yet anyway).

"Batman Begins" looks to be a cross between those two comic books. Why they needed a screenwriter to write it is kind of funny.
 
Screenwriting is, when adapting an existing work, mainly about deciding what to leave out; comics writers and artists spend their time seeing how much they can cram into a page or panel. No wonder they don't get asked to write screenplays very often.
 
:confused: Umm... I have no idea where you got that from. Lots of comic writers also write scripts (especially in TV).
One of Britains best comic book writers refused to write for Hollywood because he's seen the hatchet jobs they do.

Take the upcoming "V for Vendetta". The producers of that film are desperate to get the original writer on board! Although he's said he wants nothing to do with it!! I guess if anyone can convince him to take part its Joel Silver. I hope so.

Comic writing and scriptwriting is exactly the same thing. The main difference is that film (going at 24 fps) is a very, very, very, very slow comic book.



:confused: Again I don't know if you're joking or not. But with a film you have usually only 90 minutes to 2 hours. To tell the whole story. And there is usually a lot of things that is cut out.

With a comic book you have 1 issue to 6 or 12 or 24 etc... to tell the story. There's no need to cram anything in! You have all the time you need! :D Not so with film.

Back to Batman. :cool:

My fear is that the film will simply gloss over the stuff that made the books a success.
I wouldn't like it but I'd kind of understand that if they did, because its a multi-million dollar movie and investors want their money back with a sure fire hit.
 
If you want to see evidence of putting as much material into a comic as possible take look at Sandman, Watchmen, Crimson, Top10and Lucifer to name but a few.
This isn't a criticism: these are among my (and most other folks) favourites.
The reason Alan Moore doesn't want to adapt his own work is probably because he knows he'd have to gut it to make it commercially viable.
A comic I'd love to see filmed is Powers by Bendis and Oeming: a terrific set of stories about cops dealing in superpower-related crimes. You could just put the pages in front of the camera, do nothing else and still get a pretty good film: it's that good. Probably never happen though.
 
That's the first I've ever heard someone criticise Sandman and Watchmen for having 'too much material'. And they're your favs?

Joss Whedon's X-Men is great. But I can read that in under one minute (and it costs too much.) Sandman, Watchman, Maus, Dark knight, Miracleman, the Spirit, Cerebus, Love and Rockets etc... you have to take your time and think about.
You can tell the creators care about those books.
They give value for money. Which too many don't give.

BIG EDIT: This thread is about Batman Beyond and I don't want to hijack it talking about stuff that should be elsewhere.
 
Easy there, I said as much as possible, not too much.
I agree that we've strayed somewhat; suffice it to say that I'm looking forward to Batman Begins and wish it well.
 
Hey guys, no ones pissed that its not an American actor in the lead. We like Christian Bale. Loved him in 'American Psycho' and 'Shaft'.

It's you guys who don't like us, not the other way around. LOL :D :D :D :D
 
It's probably the marketing people who worry about the nationality of the cast and crew; I'd guess most US audiences couldn't care less and think Christian Bale is American anyway.
 
I dont think anybody else has mentioned that Batman Begins is released in the UK on the 24th June!
So just over 2 months to wait untill the film of the summer!
 
Presumably this will allow sufficient time for pirate copies to circulate so the greedy distributors can go on moaning about it instead of figuring out a way to do simultaneous releasing.
If they weren't so obsessed with territories and staggered releasing there'd probably be a lot less dodgy downloading going on. :)
 
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