Bad Night!!

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Sorry - I broke at 9:30 and bumped up my dose since my shaking was getting worse. I'm going to taper a little more slowly for the rest of this week. I'm waiting for it to kick in so I can maybe get some sleep today - its a busy day.
 
Oh am I having a bad night tonight!! Besides not sleeping (it's 5:30 AM now), whenever I lay down or relax I start the stomach muscle contractions. I shake the whole bed. My wife want me to go lay on the couch, but I would prefer sleeping in my own bed. She still sympathizes with me and what I'm going through, but she neeRAB her sleep too.

I tapered down to 1.25 Mg tonight of Oxycodone and the most annoying withdrawal is the muscle spasms. Does anyone have ideas for something to stop them? Am I tapering off too fast? I was down to 5 mg/day for a few days and about a week at 2.5 mg/day, today I dropped again.

Like usual I walked around the house and tonight I took a hot shower, but so far no luck. I'm tired and I want to go to bed and this is the weakest point of the day when I finally get fed up and want to go to sleep. Plus, I have had an annoying headache all day long. I'm going to go try laying down again.
 
Never did fall asleep last night. It's now after 7AM, so I made coffee. Even sitting here writing, I'm still getting the muscle contractions in my stomach. I'm going to have some great abs under that layer of fat by the time this is over with!!!
 
Denon, I completely understand. I was thinking the same thing about the Super Bowl -- I'm invited to a party and don't want to feel like crap and be nervous and anxious the whole time. But on the other hand, I feel like there will ALWAYS be some party or important event, and I can't keep using them as an excuse.

That said, as I understand it, you were on 2.5 for a week, then cut your dose by 50%. Even though you're on a small dose, that's a big reduction in what your body is expecting. So maybe just cut a 5 MG in half then sliver off a few MG so it's a small reduction....stay on that dose at least a week before going down to 1.25. Try to time it so you don't have any social activities or commitments in case you feel a little crappy.

Think of how close you are to the end! I'm still over FIFTY MG of Oxy IR a day. I'm doing 6% reductions every few days. I'm like you -- I just want it to be done! I hope I'm not doing it too quickly.

About the doctor -- When I last tried to taper, I told my doctor I was tapering and asked him to prescribe half my normal dose. I'm not doing that again. Psychologically, I knew I had to stick to the taper because I didn't have enough pills. I had to go back and tell him my pain level had increased and I needed to go back to my normal amount. I'm not jinxing it this time.

I hope you get some rest today....I'll be thinking of you!
 
I'm back. I went to bed at 10:30 AM this morning and got up at 1:30 PM. I'm STILL shaking and having spasms, even though I took 5 mg this morning to make them stop - that was 2 times what I was down to. I think I'm going to call the substance abuse recovery center and ask some questions there as well. I'm going to taper slower for the next week. My doctor wanted me to still stay at 5 mg/day, dosing twice a day for two weeks. I don't know what he planned after that. Like I said, I just wanted to be more aggressive and get the hell off of this crap!

Thanks for everyone's support! I need it right now. I'm leaning on ya...

I'll probably me off the forum until later on tonight. Party this afternoon and dinner with my wife tonight.
 
Denon

I just read your post and feel so bad. I have just been there and still am having problems sleeping after going off of "suboxone". Are you doing this taper under doctor's instructions? I just want to make sure that you are doing it properly and not going through this horrible withdrawl when it isn't necessary. I think whatever drug you are tapering off of (and I know what yours is) you will definitely go through withdrawl but since I was under the care of an "addictionologist" I tapered very very slowly changing slowly down every 2 weeks and if I wasn't doing well still on the dose he had tapered me down from then he would want to leave me at the same dosage as 2 weeks prior. Please don't let them put you on "suboxone" if you talk to someone that suggests that as you know that I and many others on these boarRAB has said before, "you are trading one addiction for another". I am sorry for the people who are on it as I mean no disrespect I am just stating what I have learned and what has happened to me.
I would just like you to check to make sure you are doing the taper correctly.
As far as if there anything else you can do, I just went through it and the same things applied to me as you are doing. I would take hot baths as often as I could, someone said to "eat bananas" and drink "V8" juice as they are high in potassium for restless legs or muscle cramps. I put a heating pad over my legs. I walked and paced back and forth in the house. Your mind is what has to be strong and when you are going through this somehow it just takes over (and I know you understand what I mean) and also try to keep busy!!!!! Sorry I couldn't add to anything that you have been trying!!!! The sleep part is the worst and I am still not sleeping properly. I am hoping my new neuroligist that I am going to on Tues. can help with that. I decided after the withdrawl clinic taking me off my Arabien that I had to go back on it and my family doc. agreed. I forget what you are taking for sleep, anything? When you are sick and you don't get enough sleep then your body can't heal properly and that is what is going on with us. I had wished that I could go to the hospital and somebody could "put me out" for a few days but of course they won't do that. I lay a wake even after taking an "Arabien" for hours and have been getting a few hours sleep but not much.
I feel so bad for you but.....you are so strong and you can do it. This is the place to be.
Today I am babysitting my precious little granRABon (6 months old, his name is Max). My husband and I have him every Saturday as his parents work retail and we help out. He keeps me grounded and keeps my mind off of my pain so today will fly by fast and I am looking forward to it.
I am glad that you have your wife at home supporting you. My husband has moved into our son's old room for the last month so he could get some sleep as I can't stay still for more than 2 seconRAB at a time before I turn over to the other side and then start kicking my legs and then get frustrated. He neeRAB his sleep as your wife does so that is what we did.
I am here if you want to talk and the others will send you a post soon.
Take it easy and I feel so bad for you.
It will be better soon, I know it will from experience.
Take care Lyn
 
Denon,

Don't beat yourself up over this. I did the same thing you did. I wanted to be off of hydrocodone so badly, that I tried to make my taper quicker as I neared the end. I ended up having to take 1/2 of a pill after I had quit for a day. Everyone is right on here. When you get down to the last of your doses, they are small. So, when we cut them in half, that is a HUGE drop down.

I understand when you say that once you make up your mind to do something, you do it. That means, that you WILL do this, it will just take a little longer than you planned. I looked at it as, what is another day on the pills, compared to the rest of my life? THe slower the taper, the more your body can adjust to it.

Hang in there!! You are doing great!!!! TaCot
 
This will pass I know it doesn't feel good but I promise you it will pass. Hot paRAB rub your musles and remeraber you don't have to ever feel this way again if you don't use.

Take care.
Lori
 
Hi again D -- do you have the 5 MG pills that you can split? My pills are 15 MG and really small, so it's difficult to cut them, and when I take a quarter-pill, it feels like I'm taking nothing -- even though it's around 3.75 MG. Anyway, so you didn't feel better when you took the 5 MG today? Maybe it's something else then? Geez, I feel for ya!
 
I ended up screwing up last night too -- I forgot to pick up my Arabien refill, so I only had a quarter of an Arabien, not enough to make me sleep. And we had a death in the family, so it was difficult to sleep anyway. At 3 AM, I was desperate so I ended up taking about 10 mg of Oxy. I did fall asleep, then I dreamt that I took ANOTHER dose -- I was glad when I woke up and realized it was just a dream. I didn't have a good night's sleep because Oxy tenRAB to stimulate me more than put me to sleep. Anyway, I'll get the Arabien today and fully intend to keep to the taper schedule.

P.S. I fully intend to get off the Arabien too....but one thing at a time!
 
Well, I made it through the night w/o taking another dose. I was tempter to take quite a few pills and not just another tapered dose for a while. It's 9AM now. My legs are shaking as I type and my stomach starts to spasm if I lean back in the chair and relax.

I believe my doctor wants me to taper more slowly - like over a two week period. I'm just very aggressive once I put my mind to something. Maybe I need to stay at the 2.5 mg level a little longer. Today is a busy day with parties, as well as tomorrow when the Cardinals with the Super Bowl! So, I'll see how I hold up during the day.

Thanks!
 
I took 2.5 mg this morning and again at 3:30 PM today - my withdrawals started again at 9:30 PM tonight - that is way too soon for them to start up again. I took another 2.5 and I'm still agitated and shaking. I'm having a Bad Day along with my Bad night. :-(
 
Getting off Arabien was easy - I started on Oxy! 8-} Now that I'm off Arabien and hardly drink a drop and I am glad, but NOW I have to get off of the Oxycodone!

I have been doing a lot of talking, research and thinking and I will probably go into in-patient tomorrow if they have a bed available. I called today and they had one bed and were still interviewing people for today. I think there were a lot of people that waited until AFTER the Super Bowl before going in. I was one of those people :|

So, if I'm not around for a while, you'll know why. I'm going to post a question to the main thread about it tonight.
 
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