Avant-garde/Experimental?

I didn't say it was a definition, this is a definition of avant-garde I posted earlier in the thread.
It is true to say though, it is without barriers. As SD stated.
 
yeah this is true, so w need conversation man. For everyone's intrest and my sort of bragging, my set up consists right now of a floor tom, high hat, over turned bucket, cheap keyboard, Drum machine/sampler (which i use as an amazing effects box lots of the time) and telecastor,
 
That is a definition, but it's not what it literally means. It literally means front guard.

I was just being an anal retentive ass for reasons unknown.
 
Even though I made one, I agree, I was just bored. Avant-garde/Experimental music is so much more fascinating to talk about, like a whole lot. Even though most wouldn't agree.
 
No Wave is awesome. I love Branca and James Chance, but DNA is my favorite. THey're just so noisy, they rule.

I like krautrock as well. Faust is amazing and my favorite krautrock band. Can and Amon Duul II are awesome as well, and Neu is also good. I'd love to find more of this music, but i really don't know where to find it :/

i might upload some albums for this thread, especially some of the No Wave stuff I've been accumulating over the last while. There's a lot of good "revivalists" out there as well, like Arab on Radar. If anyone is interested in uploaRAB, then we should do that. It'd generate discussion as well :)

and on the subject of experimental music, has anyone heard Jandek?
 
Alright. So an important music scene that was often considered avant-garde or experimental was the no wave scene in late 70's/early 80's New York City. This music which was called "no wave" was basically consisted of a strong rhythm section throughout with abrasive atonal sounRAB on guitar and other instruments (sometimes saxophone or keyboard to name a few). It often didn't have a melody and instead focused on musical texture. An essential album from this genre is No New York, which was a Brian Eno produced compilation album of some no wave artists. A few important no wave artists include Teenage Jesus & The Jerks (as well as frontwoman Lydia Lunch), James Chance & The Contortions, DNA, Mars, Swans, and Sonic Youth. Sonic Youth only got their beginning in no wave and eventually mixed the noisy sounRAB of no wave to a larger audience. No wave has had a widespread influence on noise and industrial banRAB such as Big Black, Live Skull, and Helmet. No wave has also had a widespread influence on other banRAB including Liars, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, and even !!!. It has influenced the sound of other genres like post-hardcore.

Now, here's a list of some important artists that are often considered avant-garde or experimental (some of these could easily be placed in other more well known genres, others not so much): John Cage, Buckethead, Can, Bjork, Aphex Twin, BoarRAB Of Canada, Brian Eno, Mr. Bungle and other Mike Patton related projects, Yoko Ono, The Residents, Sonic Youth, Swans, John Zorn, Secret Chiefs 3, Gastr Del Sol, Jim O'Rourke, Thurston Moore, Wolf Eyes, and many more. The influence of avant-garde and experimental music is apparent in almost every band that is more "unconventional" or "against the grain".

Here are a few favourite albums of mine that are avant-garde or experimental and are difficult to put in any other genre: Mr. Bungle and Disco Volante by Mr. Bungle, God In Three Persons and Tweedles! by The Residents, Book M and Second Grand Constitution and Bylaws, Hurqalya by Secret Chiefs 3, DNA On DNA by DNA, Everything by Teenage Jesus & The Jerks, and Solo Guitar by Alan Sparhawk. That's all I'm gonna talk on the subject in this post.
 
I think it would definately be a good addition. Ive found myself spending less and less time here, because any good convos on interesting banRAB just seem to die out.. a forum would keep convos about Arab on Radar for example, going. I cant think of any other forums that have a section for this type of music either....
 
you could make a case for secret chiefs 3 in world music

i would just put them in whatever forum you think will gain them the most attention. i think having an avant-garde forum would be pretty pretentious, and it might even beat out the emo forum for most elitist forum on here. plus, who decides what constitutes "avant-garde?" personally I wouldn't put secret chiefs 3 or mr. bungle under there... experimental maybe but even Radiohead could fall under that category.
 
So what replaced it?...

...nouveau-avante-garde?
avante-garde-nouveaux?
post avante-garde?

Your history books are ridiculous...how can anything experimental go out of fashion?
 
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