ok so we are doing a debate on athens and sparta. i am on athens team. my group is in charge of the social structure. we divided the topis of sicial structure into two groups, athens strengths and spartas weaknesses. i am in charge os spartas weaknesses of theor social structure. i have no idea where to start. can anyone help me? i need like bullet points or something to say during my part of the debate. notes, bullet points, websites, previous debate note cards, anything that you think will help me would be great. please make sure the info you give me is about the social structure and that only. also that it is infavor of athens. i have researched for hours and come up with nothing at all! pleaseeeeeeeeeee help me!
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Athens vs. sparta!!!!!!!! please help with my debate!?
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anonymous
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Athens
Pros: Democracy
Cons: Pederasty
Sparta
Pros - vast levels of asskicking
Cons - slavery
Pros: Democracy
Cons: Pederasty
Sparta
Pros - vast levels of asskicking
Cons - slavery
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_Denver_Nuggets_
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well sparta didn't have a good population because whenever a baby was born if it was ill or looked funny they either threw them of cliffs or put the in isolated places to starve to death. Also when a kid was about 6 or 7 they were sent of to train to be a warrior.
John Cipolletti
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Around 900 BC Greece started to stabalize into city states. Athens became a central city who held the funds for other city states like a national bank. Their position made them wealthy. They started early experiments in representative government. However, their social order was based on wealth. This wealth centered on land ownership. These were the people who were allowed to sit in the government. This was called an oligarchic government. By 600 BC the leaders started to elect the Archon (governor or mayor of Athens). But everyone else were treated as second-class citizens. Women, merchants, farmers, artisans, soldiers, teachers were all considered second-class. At the beginning, the poor were not much higher up in the social order then slaves. At first, a poor person who owed money to a wealthy one could be sold into slavery. Later on when the laws of Athens were written down, more rights were given to the poor. But at the bottom of the social ladder remained the slaves. If you need the social order of Sparta. The head counsel was the warrior elders. Everyone lived in barracks (men seperated from the women). They lived and reproduced only to be warriors. Finally, there were the slaves.