Atheists, have you ever had a discussion/debate with a "holy" leader?

No, I have never discussed/debated with a "holy" leader.

And it is not a waste of time to live a holy, righteous life. People only think that because they are blind and ignorant of the truth.

What is a waste is living your life in unrestrained pleasure, with selfishness, and unholiness. Most religions will agree, by going that route, you can only reap damnation, misery, and suffering.
 
When I was a kid I had to go to Tuesday School (kind of like Sunday School but in the afternoons after *actual* school). We were made to watch a video about how the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and dinosaur bones are the work of Satan.

I said "But scientists say the dinosaur bones are real!"

The Major (our pastor) said "Scientists can't be trusted."

I said "But your pacemaker was made by scientists..."

He told me to stop asking questions and go outside to play football, where the older boys promptly thrashed me.
 
When I was a kid I had to go to Tuesday School (kind of like Sunday School but in the afternoons after *actual* school). We were made to watch a video about how the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and dinosaur bones are the work of Satan.

I said "But scientists say the dinosaur bones are real!"

The Major (our pastor) said "Scientists can't be trusted."

I said "But your pacemaker was made by scientists..."

He told me to stop asking questions and go outside to play football, where the older boys promptly thrashed me.
 
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