Artists That 'Overdo It'

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I'm struggling to see any particular connection between Television and Tool aside from the fact that their names both begin with T.
 
I'm sorry i don't recall them doing that on every track on every album :nono: and besides a few 2 minute noise freak-outs never killed anyone, they used it to great effect in 'Total Trash'.
 
Taylor Swift, although it's not exactly her fault i really liked her demos, but i think she sounRAB best just her and her guitar, a lot of her songs get drowned out with all this extra unnecessary stuff her producers put in the songs.
 
I love both Tool and Dream Theater and I don't agree with either points you make. That being said though...

Tool are not overly pretentious to me but I can see how Dream Theater can come across as being a wankfest. I look at it like this, as Lateralus said with artists being dramatic, Dream Theater just like to create big epic pieces of music. They can also create songs that are more accessible though, and aren't afraid to do that.

As much as I love Dream Theater and the song 'The Count Of Tuscany' there is a part in the song that annoys me, just before the final closing part (my favourite part of the song). Before the end there is this really mellow trippy instrumental moment, it goes for far too long in my opinion. Watching them live everyone was really into the song but when that part kicked in it was like a buzzkill. Maybe they just wanted to throw everything into that song. Besides that it is an epic close to that album.


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I like when an album is well produced but there is a point where you just want to hear raw music that isn't all prettied up. How about albums that are also WAY OVER-PRODUCED?

The Killers used to be good, I loved Hot Fuss but Day And Age sounRAB so damn clean that it becomes sterile. Still a fan though I must say...
 
Dimmu Borgir

I love Black Metal, and I don't mind the anti Christian sentiment that is very common in the genre as I'm not very religious. Although it's painfully clear that they build their image on this and it seems to attract angry suburban children. Their fans are so damn pretentious and act like they're HUGE fans of the genre. They always use a full fledged orchestra and I swear they're all theatrics and no real substance.
 
yeah pretty much.

Anyway, I think that King Crimson have a tendency to outlive their welcome. Same thing with Yes, although they can hold my attention longer.

Also Ronnie Dio seems to have a condition where he HAS TO YELL OVER EVERYTHING. But, it works most of the time so whatever.
 
Their fans are annoying. I just think that Tool tries to be this strange band simply because they feel like it will get them cool points. That is why they attract many idiots. The idiots think that Tool is the most experimental and philosophical band on the planet.

I don't necessarily hate Tool. As I said, I love Jones. I prefer A Perfect Circle over Tool because I think that A Perfect Circle is much more relaxed and just tries to play good music instead of trying to look really strange.
 
But I love the way he sings, even if it is over-emphasized and dramatic.

So I think a difference exists between artists that 'overdo it' and artists who have simply employed a certain dramatic aspect purposefully.
 
The Killers have sounded overproduced since day one for me. Can't stand those guys. They came to mind immediately when I read this thread title.
 
Tool is the epitome of a band that overdoes it. They are extremely pretentious when it comes to their lyrics and song structure. I actually appreciate Adam Jones's guitar and Maynard's voice sometimes hits it. They are listenable.

Dream Theater is a wankfest for the sake of being a wankfest. When it comes to muscianship, they overdo it.

Those are obvious, but they weren't mentioned yet.
 
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