JennaWentz11561
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i'm very new to smartphones,(sorry for dum post) so i don't really know much about them..i was wondering which type it better and whats the differrent between them.. Cons and Pros of each.. thank you very much...
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Are UIQ 3 smartphone better then Series60 smartphone.?Sorry New2Smartphone
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iamshauna2000
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s60v3 probably have less than UIQ right now, but because s60v3 is new. Old s60 apps probably tripled the amount of apps avaliable for UIQ.
UIQ3 has less apps than s60v3, to clarify. UIQ3 is also still abundantly full of bugs and doesn't have any devices with as many features as s60v3.
I gotta buddy you should meet. Him and I go way back. His name's Google, and he knows way more about both smartphone operating systems than I do.
I gotta buddy you should meet. Him and I go way back. His name's Google, and he knows way more about both smartphone operating systems than I do.
Sterling J
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Oh my God! You know him?! That's so weird! I haven't met too many people on this forum that know about him! How did you find him?
Hey! I know that guy too. I also know his Canadian cousin Google.ca!
Look, you are anewbie, so basically it comes down to what *you* need.
S60 has more apps in general. But I know of people who swear by UIQ.
From a general perspective the difference have been already mentioned.
Oh, there is also the fact that memory only comes in Sony Memory Stick Duo's which are pricey and annoying to purchase due to limited memory size.
Check our mutual friend, Google for more info. There is tons to learn.
Look, you are anewbie, so basically it comes down to what *you* need.
S60 has more apps in general. But I know of people who swear by UIQ.
From a general perspective the difference have been already mentioned.
Oh, there is also the fact that memory only comes in Sony Memory Stick Duo's which are pricey and annoying to purchase due to limited memory size.
Check our mutual friend, Google for more info. There is tons to learn.
Punny Gosling
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To get serious for a minute, I choose s60 because Nokia has a much larger lineup of features for their devices, as I've said. I don't know of any UIQ devices with 3.2mp cameras with autofocus. I also find s60 the easiest to use between the two. There's something about s60 that keeps the idea of a phone at the forefront of my mind whereas a touchscreen makes me think about PDA's and Windows Mobile....*shudder*....
Check the wiki stickied at the very top of this forum for help too if Google lets you down. I don't think he will though.
Check the wiki stickied at the very top of this forum for help too if Google lets you down. I don't think he will though.
ladyblaster5
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Wirelessly posted (NokiaE61-1/3.0 (3.0633.09.04) SymbianOS/9.1 Series60/3.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)
IMHO, it all boils down to what you need.
Third party software are slightly overrated as what u really need are already part of the phone in most cases.
Use our friendly neighbourhood Google and look for extra software that you would probably use. Then decide.
Another thing is that if you want a touchscreen. Windows is a lot better than UIQ3, especially when you consider the spectrum of devices available.
IMHO, it all boils down to what you need.
Third party software are slightly overrated as what u really need are already part of the phone in most cases.
Use our friendly neighbourhood Google and look for extra software that you would probably use. Then decide.
Another thing is that if you want a touchscreen. Windows is a lot better than UIQ3, especially when you consider the spectrum of devices available.
To be honest, UIQ 3 is the first UIQ that I'd actually consider anywhere close to being on par with s60. Previous versions, such as that found in the p910, were just cluttered and buggy... not user friendly at all.
At this point, it more comes down to hardware choice than anything... do you want to go with a touchscreen, as Angel said, or do you want a non? I'm not a huge touchscreen fan, finding keyboard/keypad navigation to be FAR more intuitive for a smart phone.
But UIQ3 definitely has come a long way, and if you use the UI and you like it, more power to you... at least you are using Symbian and not Microsuck!
-olly
At this point, it more comes down to hardware choice than anything... do you want to go with a touchscreen, as Angel said, or do you want a non? I'm not a huge touchscreen fan, finding keyboard/keypad navigation to be FAR more intuitive for a smart phone.
But UIQ3 definitely has come a long way, and if you use the UI and you like it, more power to you... at least you are using Symbian and not Microsuck!
-olly
Microsoft may suck when it comes to purely phone functions, but surely, WM5 is a lot better than UIQ3.
I know i previously said that third party software doesn't matter that much, but software library and the capabilities of a Windows Mobile PPC shadows the UIQ3.
Considering the fact that UIQ devices aren't exactly cheap when compared to S60 devices, function for function windows devices provide much better value for money.
I know i previously said that third party software doesn't matter that much, but software library and the capabilities of a Windows Mobile PPC shadows the UIQ3.
Considering the fact that UIQ devices aren't exactly cheap when compared to S60 devices, function for function windows devices provide much better value for money.
Steven LeBlanc
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In terms of 3rd party software? Sure, WM5 has a ton. In terms of stability? UIQ is WAY more stable. WM5 is the most stable version of WM that has been released... but its still way more crash prone than any version of Symbian out there.
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sly phy .. ouija bonfire
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The problem with google is that while it gives you a wonderful rundown of features, options, and sometimes spec comparisons, it's hard to get real user reviews of it. The closest I have come are the "pro" blog sites giving a review, but they often just do a cursory review that doesn't cover the day to day issues you come across with really using a phone. This is why i don't think this question is THAT bad of a question.
In a forum setting you are speaking directly to people that use the phone in a day to day situation, not a prototype given to them by the company that they have for a week or so. People on here are so quick to point to Google, basically saying "someone else has said this and I am pointing you to that someone else", but sometimes if we wanted the someone else, we would have just gone that way. People ask on here for a reason (sometimes not as it is a noob trait to not even look), so please don't be so quick to dismiss.
I was going to pick up an M600i before the self imposed phone buying freeze and I chose it over the E61 for mostly size and looks. On the UI front, I am a S60 fan and have been for a long time, but I like the changes made to UIQ3 (from what I can tell off the internet), and the only major concern is the available third party software. While phones come with all you "should" need, those programs are often missing small features that can be made up by third party packages. I think the lack of third party applications might be less of an issue as this new year rolls out as SE rolls out more UIQ phones to fill the market holes.
On the topic of memory for sony phones. The p990i uses duo which is up to 8gb (more than mini/microsd) with 4gb readily available (still more than mini / microsd). Memory stick costs are rivaling that of mini / micro sd so the costs associated with lots of memory is no longer a real deciding factor. M2 (which the m600i uses) is already at 2gb even though it's new and should reach the 4gb area in time for the release of new UIQ phones. UIQ has also proven that it can read the higher memory cards which is something of debate if the S60 phones can do that without FP1. From that hardware perspective, I think UIQ is really good.
Hardware combinations depend on the user's need. I would like a keyboard with an autofocus camera, and as it stands right now I can't get that with S60. I can't however get a "normal" sized camera smartphone with UIQ, so each platform (read manufacturer) has its own faults.
UIQ I think is a great compromise between the PDA functions of Windows Mobile (touchscreen wise) and the smartPHONE functions of S60. If you need just a bit more of a PDA feel to your phone/organizer then UIQ might be a good option (this is going off of Google, and is not necessarily true, this is where first hand accounts from users of the forum come in handy). I used to hate windows mobile, but as I have had to live with the Dash during this freeze, I have come to really appreciate the third party market to cover up the flaws in the OS. UIQ does not have this option, so the flaws here are a bit more glaring than S60 or WM5.
As stated before, its a YOU decision, and it comes down to what you need out of the device, but hopefully there are some people on the forum that can give a better first hand experience
In a forum setting you are speaking directly to people that use the phone in a day to day situation, not a prototype given to them by the company that they have for a week or so. People on here are so quick to point to Google, basically saying "someone else has said this and I am pointing you to that someone else", but sometimes if we wanted the someone else, we would have just gone that way. People ask on here for a reason (sometimes not as it is a noob trait to not even look), so please don't be so quick to dismiss.
I was going to pick up an M600i before the self imposed phone buying freeze and I chose it over the E61 for mostly size and looks. On the UI front, I am a S60 fan and have been for a long time, but I like the changes made to UIQ3 (from what I can tell off the internet), and the only major concern is the available third party software. While phones come with all you "should" need, those programs are often missing small features that can be made up by third party packages. I think the lack of third party applications might be less of an issue as this new year rolls out as SE rolls out more UIQ phones to fill the market holes.
On the topic of memory for sony phones. The p990i uses duo which is up to 8gb (more than mini/microsd) with 4gb readily available (still more than mini / microsd). Memory stick costs are rivaling that of mini / micro sd so the costs associated with lots of memory is no longer a real deciding factor. M2 (which the m600i uses) is already at 2gb even though it's new and should reach the 4gb area in time for the release of new UIQ phones. UIQ has also proven that it can read the higher memory cards which is something of debate if the S60 phones can do that without FP1. From that hardware perspective, I think UIQ is really good.
Hardware combinations depend on the user's need. I would like a keyboard with an autofocus camera, and as it stands right now I can't get that with S60. I can't however get a "normal" sized camera smartphone with UIQ, so each platform (read manufacturer) has its own faults.
UIQ I think is a great compromise between the PDA functions of Windows Mobile (touchscreen wise) and the smartPHONE functions of S60. If you need just a bit more of a PDA feel to your phone/organizer then UIQ might be a good option (this is going off of Google, and is not necessarily true, this is where first hand accounts from users of the forum come in handy). I used to hate windows mobile, but as I have had to live with the Dash during this freeze, I have come to really appreciate the third party market to cover up the flaws in the OS. UIQ does not have this option, so the flaws here are a bit more glaring than S60 or WM5.
As stated before, its a YOU decision, and it comes down to what you need out of the device, but hopefully there are some people on the forum that can give a better first hand experience
Selena Nhuanh
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Bookmark www.mobile-review.com - IMO they do the best phone reviews around, they know that they are talking about in depth. They get criticism form time to time for being SE-biased but even that is not true.
That is the first place I look before I put my money down for a phone.
The user reviews on GSM Arena are a bit chaotic and sometimes you find idiots posting in there, but taken as a whole their user reviews give a really good rounded picture of what you will encounter if you buy a device.
That is the first place I look before I put my money down for a phone.
The user reviews on GSM Arena are a bit chaotic and sometimes you find idiots posting in there, but taken as a whole their user reviews give a really good rounded picture of what you will encounter if you buy a device.
Musicalmama
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BrianHenry
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oh believe me, I know about mobile-review! I poured over every word of their m600/p990 review and referenced shaolinmonk's review of the m600 as well to get an idea of UIQ and what I might be getting into.
The only reason I am in a freeze instead of running using a white m600i right now is because of (Lance_SE I am hoping to buy yours depending on...) 3GSM!!
I figure the only S60 phone I am excited on is the E90 and then the UIQ offerings should be good.
The problem, though with pro "blog" sites is (again) its not a day to day review, they rarely approach from a "noob" perspective, and in general give a really comprehensive review of the "device", but not its "use". I mean, as far as free info, it's the best source available, but I come to HoFo to get first hand experience.
If I listened to only Google, I would have never bought the 6260 (not a single good review), but I found some individuals that liked it and what they found annoying in day to day, I knew wouldn't bother me. This is why I come here and ask questions "noob" or not. I just wish some of the ultra fanatic phone people would remember that when they post.
edit: Lance, sorry for the long soapbox posts in your thread. I will try to cut it back. If you have the m600i after 3GSM I might be getting in touch with you. They may announce the E90 there, but if production is anything like the N95 it will be next Christmas before we see any real units.
The only reason I am in a freeze instead of running using a white m600i right now is because of (Lance_SE I am hoping to buy yours depending on...) 3GSM!!
I figure the only S60 phone I am excited on is the E90 and then the UIQ offerings should be good.
The problem, though with pro "blog" sites is (again) its not a day to day review, they rarely approach from a "noob" perspective, and in general give a really comprehensive review of the "device", but not its "use". I mean, as far as free info, it's the best source available, but I come to HoFo to get first hand experience.
If I listened to only Google, I would have never bought the 6260 (not a single good review), but I found some individuals that liked it and what they found annoying in day to day, I knew wouldn't bother me. This is why I come here and ask questions "noob" or not. I just wish some of the ultra fanatic phone people would remember that when they post.
edit: Lance, sorry for the long soapbox posts in your thread. I will try to cut it back. If you have the m600i after 3GSM I might be getting in touch with you. They may announce the E90 there, but if production is anything like the N95 it will be next Christmas before we see any real units.
mommy of 1 expecting 1
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i dont know what to say ive tryed wm(friends crapjack), s40(friends n72), and s60(dads e62, wont let me touch it though!!) from what i think the s40/60 are more user friendly then wm!! the only reason why i dont try se smartphone's is they dont have a single gsm850 offering (if they did it would lack the fetures that the n80 has), se doesnt have a all in one device, and the reason i want a smartphone is cuse they can do so much!! rite now iam considering the n95, but will wait to see what the e90 and the next nseries wil be like!