Are the Biblical Faiths the ONLY religions on the planet?

Except that you regularly call people who aren't atheists to be atheists because they disagree with you.

Do you reject that you have regularly called both TQ and I atheists despite neither of us being atheists? Do you reject constantly lumping me and TQ with others in your insults of Godless and Heathens? How about calling me and TQ "spiritually dead?" Why did you call Shadowpikachu and Mathew "not Christians?"



So how about you stop calling non-atheists atheists merely because they disagree with you?

Btw, the Shintos think you're ****ed in the afterlife. Prove them wrong.
 
Hi marc, thanks for contributing, but as you can see from tq's reply, that you are wasting your time trying to reason with these schmucks. They don't even know the difference between an atheist and idolatry for them to claim that I believe that someone who doesn't believe in the christian belief system, but does believe in another religion is an atheist rather than an idolater. It boggles the mind, the degree of ignorance these people represent.

Oh, and they aren't getting to me. I'm actually embarrassed for them. But thanks for popping in. :xhoho:
 
Uh, it means a lot of what I said is true, and you can't address it. :idea:




But you never debate them on other thoughts and beliefs. Christians every thought and belief is constantly dissected here, with the divisions drawn exactly as I described.



He doesn't provide evidence for anything but. Nice try at changing the subject too.




So you answer a question with a question? I'm a Missouri Synod Lutheran. Still waiting for your answer. About a year ago you put in big huge bold letters that you're not an atheist. Just can't disclose what you are, can you?
 
Yes. Several times. The cowardly YECs didn't even try to post. I argued that Norse creation was correct. Didn't get a peep. Remember that YEC is dependent upon a false dichotomy. Its sole argument is that evolution is wrong therefore it is correct (if sky is not orange, it is pink). But in place of evolution, another religion who's basis is more or the less the same as YEC, YEC has no argument. Remember that YEC under no circumstances can ever prove itself correct. Archie today just argued the flood was correct despite failing to deal with the massive problem of water, heat and the required sediment to place animals under miles of rock in a mere year across the globe. The belief doesn't make sense on its own, and when it does not have its false dichotomy, it flees.
 
Your original challenge in this thread was to look through every post on the forum, and to find any examples of a "statement being directly made or even implied by any member that unless one accept the christian version of events, then they are atheists". That challenge did not require the conversation to be directly talking about the matter as the main topic of the thread, nor did it require a direct statement such as "That Muslim is an atheist". All it needed was an implication to be made. And you have made several.

If, in the gun control forum, I was to say that "treating the Constitution like it's been set in stone is akin to a YEC's scripture-worship", you could imply from that phrase that I consider Young Earth Creationists to worship scripture. That would not have been the topic of the thread, or even of the post - it's the gun control forum, after all - but the implication would still have been there. In the same way, you haven't posted specifically about non-believer atheists, but implications can be drawn directly from your posts. You challenged someone to find such implications, I found them.

Unless you would like to provide the appropriate context of your quotes?

...actually, from what I can remember the last time we had a non-Christian religion discussed on the boarRAB, Archangel attacked them as much as the atheists, agnostics etc did. Eanassir.

It doesn't happen that often, however, because the boarRAB are dominated by the Christian spectrum. On other boarRAB I've visited where members have more varied beliefs, they equally get called into question by everyone else. Even on these forums, it's not uncommon to see two different branches of Christianity 'team up with the atheists' on a particular point.


This may be true, but it is irrelevant. We aren't talking about the influence of non-Christian religion, just it's existence.

Examples?

Flying Spaghetti Monster not accepted, as it's a thought experiment and famously so.

Ironically, I made one about 20 hours ago.
I wouldn't say I debate in the same style as the other two (TQ & OC) - in fact, I'm not a fan of confrontational debating at all (with the odd exception). However, I certainly class myself as an agnostic.
 
Not when you take in to account that marc has the same ideas as Archie.

Notice he "forgets" that Mathew and Shadow never get the kind of XXXX that him and Archie do. Simple, because Marc like Archie believe if you disagree, you're an atheist. Remember Marc called himself an atheist when he said that the Jewish family who sued to remove the Cross from state land were atheists. Remember, we're not dealing with intelligent people here.
 
...that's what I've been doing. If first quoted it in my first post in this thread, and I just posted it in my previous one. I'll quote it again for you:


Then add to that more recent quotes of yours, that you thought TQ was an atheist because he completely rejects the concept of a living and personal God.

That's three quotes. As explained many times before, these are examples of you stating that someone must be an atheist because they reject Christianity.
 
How typical from this corrupt member. Another thread based on a completely fallacious premise since not one quoted post can EVER be produced of any member, christian or otherwise EVER SAYING that unless someone accepts or believes in the christian God, or the christian version of events, then they are atheists.

Once again this troll is dishonestly forming an argument not based on what somebody has actually said, but based on making assumptions based on something never said or even implied. :frazzled: Call me :telephone when he gets a clue, but I wont hold my breath waiting for that to ever happen. ;)

I would even challenge this lying troll to quote a thread or post in which the subject of people who accept another religions beliefs apart from Christianity equaling atheism was ever being discussed on this forum, much less the statement being directly made or even implied by any member that unless one accept the christian version of events, then they are atheists. AND SINCE ONE OF THE RULES FOR POSTING NEW THREARAB IS TO SUPPORT IT WITH SOME QUOTED EVIDENCE, MAYBE THIS OBNOXIOUS CHILD SHOULD START THERE AND QUOTE SUCH EVIDENCE THAT ANYONE HAS EVER MADE THE IMPLIED CLAIM.
 
You still don't get it do you, Iangb!!! Is your ignorance willful or are you just in denial of reality? First of all, in reference to Brigid and Antonia, both of them are self proclaimed atheists so nothing in my statements to them was in error. As for TQ, I did apologize even though every argument he defenRAB here supports the atheist mind set. It is impossible to debate him and remember that he isn't what he appears to be in every opinion he proffers here.

But most importantly, and to the precise issue of the claims in the OP; point out where in one of your examples I stated than anyone you mention clings to another religious belief system other than christianity, therefore I am stating that they are atheists? That is the positive assertion which the obnoxious child is making, and it is patently false at any level of rationale. So I must ask, why are you also purposely ignoring the fallacious premise this thread is based upon as you attempt to dishonestly indict me by also referring to completely off topic examples in order to claim that the obnoxious child has any point at all when in none of the discussions in question did I call anyone who is committed to a religion other than christianity, an atheist? In other worRAB Iangb, do you have an on topic point to make or am I to just get more irrational drivel from you too?
 
By your logic, you believe that Archie's view is the only interpretation of Christanity and that all other views, such as Shadow's and Mathews aren't.

Thanks for clearing that up.

I'll file this away when you lie in the future about not tying interpretations to the entire religion to prove, you like Archie are a big fat liar.

Apparently to you people, the fact that Shadow and Mathew are Christians and DON'T get the same flak as your peanut gallery makes them not Christian.

Logic and sanity however would obviously point out that it's not Christanity per se, it's your FRACKED UP INTERPRETATIONS.
 
You've consistently stated that anyone who tells you they are a christian who does not believe in YEC as you do is not a Christian, but is a spiritually dead secular humanist, etc, etc. Oddly enough, this is the same thing you say to all the atheists on the board too.

So when you said that, did you actually mean that you respected their deeply held spiritual beliefs and their Christian character? Or where you lumping them in with all the other "unbelievers"?

Do you honestly think anyone buys your "outrage" Archie? The idea that you could blatantly lie like this, while having the audacity to accuse someone else of lying and disparaging their character as you have makes me embarassed for you.
 
You insist on telling me what I believe when I continue to tell you that Idolatry, as in worshiping false goRAB is not atheism which is a belief that no God exists at all. OK Iangb, continue to tell me what I believe. You are as thickheaded and corrupted as the obnoxious child is. But life is too short to waste attempting to bang my head through a brick wall which is what attempting to reason with you is like. :xdonno: :xbye:
 
I'm not telling you what you believe - in fact, I made it perfectly clear in my first post here that you didn't actually think that all non-christians are atheists. I'm simply repeating what you have said - which indicates that you do.

If what you have said is contrary to what you believe, that's a problem that you're going to have to deal with yourself. Flinging ad homs at me won't solve your problems.
 
Simple logic dictates that if you call someone who disagrees with you an atheist because they disagree with you, you think that people who disagree with you are atheists independent of their religion.

Archie doing this on a regular basis and then saying he doesn't do it is hysterical. We have at least 3 quotes of him doing just that and yet he denies it.

He's like Nixon, except he'd deny that he was part of watergate even when the tapes were played.
 
Well, that's the last time I give you the benefit of doubt for a while...

Archangel, your challenge from your first post was to produce evidence of a "statement being directly made or even implied by any member that unless one accept the christian version of events, then they are atheists".

In your first quoted post, you used the terms 'unbelievers' (of Christianity) and 'atheist' interchangeably. This implies that any 'unbeliever' is an atheist.

In your second quoted post, you claimed that (paraphrased) "Only an atheist would disagree with my claim, because they alone have no concept of the consequences of sinning". This post labelled anyone who didn't agree with your POV to be an atheist, and seeing as your POV was based on your Christian beliefs then this implies than anyone who disagrees with your Christian beliefs is an atheist.

In your third quoted post, you explained your rationale for labelling TQ an atheist was that everything he wrote fell into the category of "one who completely rejects the concept of a living and personal God". This implies that anyone who rejects the concept of a living and personal God is an atheist. You have even backed this up in your very most recent post, saying that "TQ demonstrates the mind set of an atheist" - where as in fact, all he has done is reject your interpretations of Christianity.

You are moving the goalposts by insisting on someone quoting you making a direct statement, as this was not specified as necessary in your challenge. It is impossible for me to be using 'off-topic posts', as your challenge invited me to look through every post you have ever made. Heck, you actually invited me to look through every post on the forum. Furthermore, regardless of your intentions when you posted, or your background beliefs that they were not correct, the implications are there. The challenge has been met.
 
First of all, I'm not outraged in the least. I find his dishonesty humorous since he is attempting to start a thread based on arguments that have NEVER EVER been made or implied in any way by me or any other christian(s) here. Would you care to post any thread or post I or anyone else have proffered which "directly" argued what the OP implies and asserts? NO? You can't? Then just as the OP is dishonest and fallacious, so is your attempted defense of it.

Remember, he is saying that I have positively argued that if you reject the christian perspective in favor of what any other religion believes that you must be an atheist. He is asserting that I have made this as a positive argument. I'm saying, PROVE I or anyone else HAVE MADE THAT ARGUMENT!!!
 
Exactly who is to say what is the right religion or belief?Be it atheist or Christianity or any thing else for that matter?Wars are fought over what is the correct religion or set of beliefs.

O.K.it seems to be Christianity vs.Atheist but I can't help going into it a bit more
or try to find out what the big argument is.

Maybe there is or was a Christ (bet he looked middle eastern)or a Buddha,
Allah.

guess it depenRAB on what you believe.

Chew on this:Your an American Indian say 300 yrs ago and your religion or belief is
in the Manitou's or indian spirits,and you believe when you die you go to let us
say the happy hunting grounRAB or cross the river and meet up with everyone you knew,endless forest bountiful game.

You die,WHOA your not in Kansas any more,your not anywhere you ever imagined, instead your standing in front of these big golden gates.What know
was your whole religion or beliefs a lie?or is your religion or beliefs what you
yourself make them or you come together as a collective with others,and
practice your religion or beliefs?

So really what is it?is there any proof?and don't give me this well the Bible says.So doe's the Koran for that matter and every other Holly book of every religion or belief.

Notice how I say religion or belief?Its how I feel inside not like a religion but I
believe I've been a good hubby and father and a pretty decent person most of the time.

So if there is a better place I'm probably in so I don't have to worry about religion's or beliefs as long as I believe in me.:frazzled:

RELIGION ​
 
That is correct, and how it went proves my point. Eanassir posted, atheists and agnostics took exception to it, and Archangel took exception to it identically. Rather than join with him or harmonize with him in any way, you said this;



Archangel quit posting, and Eanassir did the last 4 posts with no responses!! When was the last time a Christian got the last word like that? If Archangel would have continued posting, the thread would have become only about him.



I know - traditional, Bible believing Christians are always the opposition. Two-way conflicts. My post #29 is still holding up very well, isn't it?



You weren't the starter of the thread. The one who started it has, in the past, had great difficulty understanding that far-east religions have little to do with the U.S. government. He used the word "planet", and often implies "planet" when discussing something about only the western world.





Obvious_child and T.Q.



Obvious_chilRAB is Deist if I remember right - do you accept that? T.Q's may very well be FSM - he never says.



That was just a vague one-liner - I'm talking about detailed discussions, similar to the details in the 10 to 1 or 30 to 1 discussions that traditional Christians often find themselves in here.



From Huxley, (the originator of the term agnostic) to yourself, I never could understand how an 'I don't know' position has you arguing so vehemently for atheism and against Christianity. :confused:
 
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