Apple iPhone 3G [S] vs. HTC/Google Nexus One
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Anonymouss
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If you want to stop Android from soaking data you need to stop the background sync. Any of these means will do. You don't need to apply all of them.
From Android 1.6 and above, there is a Power Widget. If you set up the Power Widget on the homescreen, the sync button is the one second on the right with the circle. Turn that off.
If you're on a GSM phone, you can go to Wireless Settings and go to the Access Point Name settings, turn off the green on the APN station.
There is also Accounts and Sync, which you can find on Settings, you can turn off Background Data and Auto-Sync, as well as mark off the email accounts that use them.
The simplest way is of course, just turn off the APN, making the device, a mere phone without data. Anytime you need data, can always turn it on again.
Google is now selling the battery for the Nexus if you need a spare.
From Android 1.6 and above, there is a Power Widget. If you set up the Power Widget on the homescreen, the sync button is the one second on the right with the circle. Turn that off.
If you're on a GSM phone, you can go to Wireless Settings and go to the Access Point Name settings, turn off the green on the APN station.
There is also Accounts and Sync, which you can find on Settings, you can turn off Background Data and Auto-Sync, as well as mark off the email accounts that use them.
The simplest way is of course, just turn off the APN, making the device, a mere phone without data. Anytime you need data, can always turn it on again.
Google is now selling the battery for the Nexus if you need a spare.
a gal and her dog
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Android is not the same. From the moment the Android is activated when you log on to a virgin phone for the very first time, you are already cloud synced. You simply don't need to explicitly start "Google Sync" an Android. Just login to your gmail account and enter password.
You don't need a Microsoft Exchange server or to do this, even though its relatively easy to do:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138740&topic=14252
Just that, on Android, it made an easy thing become easier.
You don't need a Microsoft Exchange server or to do this, even though its relatively easy to do:
http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138740&topic=14252
Just that, on Android, it made an easy thing become easier.
ilovehorses1293
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I want to go Android, but I have to have wifi tethering on the $30/mo smartphone data.
I would never buy a NexusONE, because
A) It doesn't have a keyboard.
B) Even though I don't use 3G, I would want an upgrade path to 3G in a device that expensive, and it doesn't have 3G (there is no T-Mobile AWS 3G in my neck of the woods).
A DROID with a better (symmetrically placed) keyboard on AT&T with the ability to force GSM/EDGE but with 3G for tethering and free wifi tethering would be my ultimate phone. I just can't give up $10 wifi tethering on my E71.
I basically have a $10/mo Mifi on AT&T.
I would never buy a NexusONE, because
A) It doesn't have a keyboard.
B) Even though I don't use 3G, I would want an upgrade path to 3G in a device that expensive, and it doesn't have 3G (there is no T-Mobile AWS 3G in my neck of the woods).
A DROID with a better (symmetrically placed) keyboard on AT&T with the ability to force GSM/EDGE but with 3G for tethering and free wifi tethering would be my ultimate phone. I just can't give up $10 wifi tethering on my E71.
I basically have a $10/mo Mifi on AT&T. Apple prohibits specifically apps that compete (to their opinion) or improve (customer's opinion) core function apps such as browsers, video players, stuff like Google Voice, Latitude, while crippling things like 3G video and TV streaming on many apps.
For example, the use of alternative browsers aka Opera, Skyfire---I found a particular killer browser on Android called Dolphin, which not only has multigesture support, you can create more of them, as well as being able to send any web page and link to a social networking site.
Even at best, approval on App Store takes about a week or two (if you're lucky), and remember this includes updates to fix bugs on apps that your customer is complaining. You can put an app into Android Market in 10 minutes. This can be critical in the enterprise market, if you need to quickly fix an app already deployed in the field. Rather than wait for days, weeks while the bugs on an app continue to do damage, you can deploy the app in Android Market---which actively push notifies the update to the Androids deployed in the field. The fixes can already be deployed in the field within the hour after the app version is set. Killer advantage for devs.
I love iTunes, but its a mess. Backup on iPod Touch takes forever. Organization of its music catalog is a mess. Its not even an efficient way to transfer contacts and calendar information from one iPhone to another, might as well use Google Sync for that.
For example, the use of alternative browsers aka Opera, Skyfire---I found a particular killer browser on Android called Dolphin, which not only has multigesture support, you can create more of them, as well as being able to send any web page and link to a social networking site.
Even at best, approval on App Store takes about a week or two (if you're lucky), and remember this includes updates to fix bugs on apps that your customer is complaining. You can put an app into Android Market in 10 minutes. This can be critical in the enterprise market, if you need to quickly fix an app already deployed in the field. Rather than wait for days, weeks while the bugs on an app continue to do damage, you can deploy the app in Android Market---which actively push notifies the update to the Androids deployed in the field. The fixes can already be deployed in the field within the hour after the app version is set. Killer advantage for devs.
I love iTunes, but its a mess. Backup on iPod Touch takes forever. Organization of its music catalog is a mess. Its not even an efficient way to transfer contacts and calendar information from one iPhone to another, might as well use Google Sync for that.
^ The iPhone has similar options. Background synching is called "Push". 3G can be disabled at any time as well as adjusting the brightness. I always had 3G disabled when I didnt need data. It also eliminated calls from going directly to my VM without my iPhone ringing. Unlike the Blackberry, I read that the iPhone sucks data the most of any smartphone out there. It's essentially a computer.
It's good to hear that Google is selling a spare battery. With the iPhone, u have to return it to Apple and have it replaced (it's a tricky process) for around $80.
It's good to hear that Google is selling a spare battery. With the iPhone, u have to return it to Apple and have it replaced (it's a tricky process) for around $80.
pregnant wiv baby boy
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I can't compare with the nexus as I never tried taking pictures with it, only played around with my co-workers nexus. But that link you posted is way off on the iPhone pic quality. I never get that bad of quality pics on my 3GS.
Ok, after a couple of days, a few observations. First, as the above poster said, having bluetooth, wifi, gps etc on your homescreen for instant access is awesome. Better than sbsettings even.
My battery life is better but not by a huge amount. Noticeable, though.
Screen is WAY crisper and brighter, but...I know it's larger, however for some reason it seems a little smaller. Hard to explain. But it's more vibrant and clear.
I really like the customization of it.
The android market is better to me. I know, I'm the ONLY one who thinks this. To me,though, most of the app store apps are "fart this" or "pull my finger" that. Junk. The android market has it's share of worthless apps, but to me the ratio of good to bad is in it's favor.
No lag or crashes for me. I'm on ATT and edge is actually pretty good to surf. Wifi is blazing fast.
Phone quality is excellent.
Speaker blows. Not that it's quiet, just distorted.
The phone feels good in hand. Solid.
Pinch and zoom work very well on the web with a downloaded app.
All in all, for me...a better experience than the iPhone. I have had the iPhone since June 2007, so I'm not slamming it. I'm an Apple fan and really dig their products. I just happen to like the Nexus better than iPhone.
I may be back later on if the iPhone opens up a bit more or has a better phone. Till then, I think I'm quite happy with the Nexus.
My battery life is better but not by a huge amount. Noticeable, though.
Screen is WAY crisper and brighter, but...I know it's larger, however for some reason it seems a little smaller. Hard to explain. But it's more vibrant and clear.
I really like the customization of it.
The android market is better to me. I know, I'm the ONLY one who thinks this. To me,though, most of the app store apps are "fart this" or "pull my finger" that. Junk. The android market has it's share of worthless apps, but to me the ratio of good to bad is in it's favor.
No lag or crashes for me. I'm on ATT and edge is actually pretty good to surf. Wifi is blazing fast.
Phone quality is excellent.
Speaker blows. Not that it's quiet, just distorted.
The phone feels good in hand. Solid.
Pinch and zoom work very well on the web with a downloaded app.
All in all, for me...a better experience than the iPhone. I have had the iPhone since June 2007, so I'm not slamming it. I'm an Apple fan and really dig their products. I just happen to like the Nexus better than iPhone.
I may be back later on if the iPhone opens up a bit more or has a better phone. Till then, I think I'm quite happy with the Nexus.
mrsx.parson
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LOL excellent post.
I find the widgets quite useful on my Nexus One. Not sure what he meant about widgets not being useful. The default news/weather widget is excellent. The facebook one and weather channel ones are pretty nice as well. And of course, nobody needs a media player widget on their screen, right?
Also, you forgot multitasking. Good, seamless multitasking. Not a workaround through jailbreaking :buddies:
I'm not slamming the iPhone either, I still have my 3GS and have bought every one on launch day. I haven't seen much forward progress with the iPhone in the last couple years though other than adding features that should have been there to begin with. Apple is simply resting on the hype of the iPhone and increasing its sales through additional carriers/low subsidized pricing. They haven't added any one thing in the last year that has made me say "oh, I've got to have an iPhone." Hopefully they have something really sweet in store with the fourth version. Give me the ability to customize/multitask out of the box and some kind of notification system like webOS or Android and i'd be set, but until then Android/webOS/Maemo is what I'm interested in.
I find the widgets quite useful on my Nexus One. Not sure what he meant about widgets not being useful. The default news/weather widget is excellent. The facebook one and weather channel ones are pretty nice as well. And of course, nobody needs a media player widget on their screen, right?
Also, you forgot multitasking. Good, seamless multitasking. Not a workaround through jailbreaking :buddies:
I'm not slamming the iPhone either, I still have my 3GS and have bought every one on launch day. I haven't seen much forward progress with the iPhone in the last couple years though other than adding features that should have been there to begin with. Apple is simply resting on the hype of the iPhone and increasing its sales through additional carriers/low subsidized pricing. They haven't added any one thing in the last year that has made me say "oh, I've got to have an iPhone." Hopefully they have something really sweet in store with the fourth version. Give me the ability to customize/multitask out of the box and some kind of notification system like webOS or Android and i'd be set, but until then Android/webOS/Maemo is what I'm interested in.
Kyaw Soe O
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Guys its useless trying to tell these guys all the things that they can't do. They are all hardcore apple boys till the end and close minded just like their OS. Once they get widgets, customizable home screens or anything else other OS's have already had (i.e. copy/paste, video, mms) they will call apple god for introducing something so revolutionary. Sure iphone is a nice phone, but open up and look around. There are phones that do things better than it in many areas.
GMail will never be beat on Android, Google Voice is so well integrated into the system as is Google chat. Google maps with LATITUDE running in the background is unbeatable, not to mention one of the best FREE turn by turn navigation systems also. You have your apps and we have ours, in time we will have all the same ones you have but we will have some that you will never have (due to apple app store limitations).
GMail will never be beat on Android, Google Voice is so well integrated into the system as is Google chat. Google maps with LATITUDE running in the background is unbeatable, not to mention one of the best FREE turn by turn navigation systems also. You have your apps and we have ours, in time we will have all the same ones you have but we will have some that you will never have (due to apple app store limitations).
69 Is My Rhyme
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No surprise. The iPhone OS only has minimal multitasking, which means more CPU cycles devoted to the input queue, which creates that illusion of smoothness. Every multitasking OS divides cycles, which doesn't render them as smooth, but they do multitask. If the iPhone OS is going to multitask more apps, its not going to be that smooth either. Please note that the iPhone OS, because it does not multitask third party apps, devotes more memory space for the primary third party application. Android simply does more under the hood than the iPhone.
The question for Apple is how are they going to transition the Iphone OS to multitasking without breaking those 120k+ apps.
Work wise, I find working on the Android a lot faster than the iPhone OS, which I have had experience since 2007. Mainly because I can switch among apps a lot faster, instead of closing each down to get to another app by shuffling across different screens. Android puts the most recent six opened apps into one popup window by pressing the Home button long enough.
I also find Android quite a bit more intuitive. The simplest test for a UI is how to move an app icon around the screen in the simplest most common sense manner.
1. Blackberry, Symbian, Windows Mobile - To move an icon around the screen, you have to go down and pull up some corner menu, find and activate some Move command on that menu, go back to the icon then move it around. Definitely unintuitive.
2. iPhone - You have to press on the black space on screen long enough, all the icons will start wiggling, then you can move or delete the icons. Better than the first, but its not intuitive enough. You have to press on the black space between icons on the screen to activate this, you cannot press on the icon itself, which will start the app. All the icons get wiggly, not just the only one you want to move, and you have to press the main button to deactivate.
3. Android - Simply press on the icon you want to move long enough, you get a vibration, the icon sticks to your finger, then just move it around. At the same time, the cabinet tab turns into a garbage can if you want to delete the icon by dragging it there.
The question for Apple is how are they going to transition the Iphone OS to multitasking without breaking those 120k+ apps.
Work wise, I find working on the Android a lot faster than the iPhone OS, which I have had experience since 2007. Mainly because I can switch among apps a lot faster, instead of closing each down to get to another app by shuffling across different screens. Android puts the most recent six opened apps into one popup window by pressing the Home button long enough.
I also find Android quite a bit more intuitive. The simplest test for a UI is how to move an app icon around the screen in the simplest most common sense manner.
1. Blackberry, Symbian, Windows Mobile - To move an icon around the screen, you have to go down and pull up some corner menu, find and activate some Move command on that menu, go back to the icon then move it around. Definitely unintuitive.
2. iPhone - You have to press on the black space on screen long enough, all the icons will start wiggling, then you can move or delete the icons. Better than the first, but its not intuitive enough. You have to press on the black space between icons on the screen to activate this, you cannot press on the icon itself, which will start the app. All the icons get wiggly, not just the only one you want to move, and you have to press the main button to deactivate.
3. Android - Simply press on the icon you want to move long enough, you get a vibration, the icon sticks to your finger, then just move it around. At the same time, the cabinet tab turns into a garbage can if you want to delete the icon by dragging it there.
choco.lover5
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So explain the same smoothness of a jailbroken iPhone 3GS. I multitask plenty of apps at once and it stays just as smooth and fast as a non-jailbroken iPhone.
OMG .. Your info is just wrong wrong wrong. You can press on the icon itself without starting the app to delete or move icons.
There's no way you ever owned an iPhone.
OMG .. Your info is just wrong wrong wrong. You can press on the icon itself without starting the app to delete or move icons.
There's no way you ever owned an iPhone.
Battery update on new Nexus...Mine is getting better by the day. Today, took from charger at 7:30am. Surfed alot today, downloaded several apps, a dozen calls, at least twenty texts and some camera usage. Also 35 minutes of music. It's now 4:25pm, and I have 70% left. Very nice.
Beryllium Knight
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A jail broken iPhone doesn't change the OS CPU timesharing among apps. Your iPhone OS, jailbroken or not, still has the same CPU timesharing scheme. The sharing of CPU cycles among different apps are determined by the OS kernel by design and specific algorithms. which is well beyond the reach of jailbreaking.
In other words, your so called multitasking isn't really multitasking. Just apps in memory resident. It doesn't mean the OS is giving each app a shared timed cycle, allowing them to process in parallel. The foreground app still gets 100% of the CPU cycles when they're actually doing something, and only designated system apps, like the music player and the App Store downloader and installer, can steal cycles because they got a higher priority.
Want to check my Twitter replies and see how many iPhone twitter apps I can post with?
But you're correct. You press on the icon long enough, but all the icons go wiggly, not just the selected one. Even if you move an icon on the iphone, you need to press the main button to deactivate the wiggly movement. On the Android, only one icon moves, but there is no displacement unlike the Apple. But you can move and drop an icon with a single gesture.
In other words, your so called multitasking isn't really multitasking. Just apps in memory resident. It doesn't mean the OS is giving each app a shared timed cycle, allowing them to process in parallel. The foreground app still gets 100% of the CPU cycles when they're actually doing something, and only designated system apps, like the music player and the App Store downloader and installer, can steal cycles because they got a higher priority.
Want to check my Twitter replies and see how many iPhone twitter apps I can post with?
But you're correct. You press on the icon long enough, but all the icons go wiggly, not just the selected one. Even if you move an icon on the iphone, you need to press the main button to deactivate the wiggly movement. On the Android, only one icon moves, but there is no displacement unlike the Apple. But you can move and drop an icon with a single gesture.
Member Four
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The N1 was never said to be the "iPhone Killer". I can't even stand saying that, it's stupid. Just let it be, no one is trying to threaten your precious.
Mrs. Meier
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fixed that for you 