Anyone Using the Java Stuff?

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This morning I noticed on Freeware Palm there's a new little 4k app that converts pixels to millimeters for digital photo stuff. This would be handy, although if there's a simple mathematical formula I guess you could do without it.

To use this simple app, apparently you need "SuperWaba." This is a java applet/converter/application "something" that is 1500k. Well that's no good. Too big, right?

I have the Java download form PalmOne but installed it briefly and removed it. Since I'm about to finally dump WordSmith after 2 years in favor of TealDoc doing ALL OF IT, I have the room in flash to load the Java stuff.

Is anyone here using the Java WebSphere for ANYTHING? Does it serve ANY PRACTICAL PURPOSE other than allowing JPluck? And what's Superwaba???

VERY CURIOUS - thanks in advance.
 
Hi PTL,
These are my thoughts.
As far as I know, "SuperWaba" is a method of Java programming which is specially designed for writing for handhelds.
http://www.superwaba.com.br/en/default.asp

The Palm Java module just allows the Palm OS to run Java programs, so I guess the only real use of the Java module on the Palm, is if you are using applications that were written in Java (and thus require the module).

I have never used it, but I think it may be a fairly big deal:- I have the feeling, that this allows you to basically use any program written in Java (don't quote me on this!), although, they might not look great if they were designed for a PC. However, they do need to be repackaged from jad/jar files into Palm PRC and PDB ones, before they can be loaded up. (The program that does the conversion is here, but requires sign-up: http://pluggedin.palm.com)
I'm interested to find out more, and see if that really is the case. If so, it opens up a whole world of applications that can be run on the Palm, even though they weren't written for it. I must say though, I think they would be very difficult to use if they weren't written specifically for Palm, due to screen resolutions and such, although I may be wrong.
iiicRuled
 
Seems it's more of a developer's thing. I wanted to see if thre were any EXISTING apps (formatted for Palm, as you mention) that would add functionality.

I haven't seen any, nor am I interested (at least at this point) in "developing" my own. There's not enough Scotch on the planet, unfortunately.

Perhaps if PalmOne do "take a dive," someone will take over with a "Zaurus" type deveice that runs linux and REALLY would enable not only Java but other "self customizing," and we could in essence design our own software.

I'm going to pay a LOT MORE attention, for example, to Tealpoint's "TealInfo;" not only downloading pre-made folios (some of which are great) but making MY OWN to take the place of simple apps. Every Friday morning at the first hotsync after 7AM, for example, I get movie times for 6 Southern California zip codes for every movie theatre and show time. Wherever I end up, I have every movie listing available within 20 miles of those 6 area codes and my girl and I can "catch a flick" without playing the "showtime wheel of fortune" and waiting in lines.

Anything SIMPLE like that that adds functionality is what I'm looking for - those movie times take up a total of 160-180k -- on the card -- after I transfer them, of course.

Thanks for the insight and saving me tons of "searching around!"
 
No probs PTL. But it has really got me thinking that this could add come serious functionality. I mean, the Java engine is ARM native, so it should run pretty fast. There may be Java apps, such as movie players and games, that would run great on the Palm, or could easily be tweaked to (hopefully by the developer- I'm no good at coding!) So I'll let you know if I find any interesting apps that work.
Take care
iiicRuled
 
Yes, the coding thing was what I was referring to with "not enough scotch on the planet."

I'll keep my eyes open too. The only one I found that SUPPOSEDLY requires the Java WebSphere environment is:

JPluck.

Oddly enough, I think it might work without it, too - it downloads complete web pages with links to be viewed later. It's very memory intensive (20MB of files on the PC, and 400-500k on the handheld, typically) but the results are TERRIFIC with no glitches that I could see. You say how many "links deep" you want to go, and BOOM - the whole website can be viewed later on the T3. I just don't know if it's worth 1.5MB total in prc/java stuff on the handheld, another 1/2 or full MB of data, and 20MB on the PC to view a couple of pages with VERY NICE LINKS, when I can "notepad" them in plain text without the links (manually hit each link and copy that text) and whiz in to TealDoc for around 11k or so (and stored on the card!).

Anything regarding functionality -- I AM THERE, my friend! Do please please keep a lookout - and I promise to do the same and respond to THIS THREAD rather than tying up a new one.

Thank you.
 
Here's something that is supposed to remove the "command line nonsense" from SuperWaba, although it says Palm OS2!! I'm assuming it works with current OS since it's just been posted:

http://www.freewarepalm.com/utilities/tauschkemobilecreator.shtml

Apparently allows you to quickly write desktop applications for cross platform and Palm. That would indicate to me you can make your own "applets" that simulate parts of programs otherwise available . . . might be interesting if it's easy enough to understand (?).
 
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