Anyone else wish the bad guys were a bit more successful?

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Indeed. Original Ocean's 11 and The Italian Job, they didn't get away with the loot. In the newer versions of thsoe films, they were nicking the money from scumbags, so were allowed to be succesful.
 
Considering the name of the OP. What about Blackadder? Prince Ludwig killed the entire cast and assumed the role of Elizabeth I in Blackadder II.

The 'good guys' in the shape of Blackadder himself won out in Blackadder the Third, as he assumed the role of the prince.

And of course they all died at the end of Blackadder Goes Forth.
 
I've always rooted for the psychopathic murderer where killing airhead bimbos and stereotypical US college jocks are concerned! Can't quite bring myself to think "I hope they survive!". I also liked Mr Joshua (Gary Busey) in Lethal Weapon. Then again, Mel Gibson was cool as **** too, so that was a toughy!:D
 
But then that sparks the debate about wether he was actually the bad guy, given that he probably stopped a nuclear war. Nite Owl. Silk Spectre and Rorshach could be seen as the villains (albeit unknowing) for trying to stop him.
 
I disagree, but do accept that these movies are getting more predictable. I think what should happen more often, is that bad guys realize the error of their ways, and turn good. Or when a good guy turns bad - as a surprise!

Movies should be setting a good example to society and not having people murdered etc..
 
In the original Dutch version of The Vanishing, the villain got away with it...but not in the Hollywood remake (which was directed by the same guy, and starred Jeff Bridges)
 
Funny Games. Both German and American versions. Both good albeit disturbing and each was directed by Haneke.

I was rooting heartily for Stuntman Mike in Deathproof from Grindhouse. Since he was the only likeable character in an otherwise dull film I wanted him to dispatch every one of those irritating birRAB. But alas the PC ending with the girls giving poor auld Stuntman Mike his comeuppance was what we got. :rolleyes:
 
I totally agree, I thought the film was a heap of shite, it actually made me lose a lot of faith in Tarantino. By the end of the film I was actually feeling sorry for Kurt Russell's character, and wished that crazy black woman would cop it, cause she was extremely irrating.
 
I have waited all my life to see a 'blockbuster' movie WITHOUT the usual happy ending.
There seems to be a 'genre' of movie where almost everyone dies, but that is just one extreme to another.
You can forget Hollywood making such a movie though, they seem petrified of 'surprising' or upsetting their US audience, and only like to make movies they think will make multi-millions.
 
Not all of them surely. The odd "bad guy wins" in a major movie won't suddenly corrupt society.

Would the US movie fans really go up in arms if someone like "Hans Groeber" got away with it just once.
 
Does Saw count cos it manages to have a ton of sequels last one I saw was Saw III but doesn't he get away with it. Can't remember how it worked cos I last watched about 4 years ago.
 
The Mist. Great film. Made even better by watching it in black and white on the Blu-Ray. One of the best Stephen King adaptations.
 
In some ways Jigsaw is phenomenally successful, in that his traps go off as planned even if the outcome relies on extraordinary luck.

In his own terms I'd say he was unsuccessful. He's attempting to revitalise people by giving them experiences in which they save themselves from death, and if they go and die, then he's failed. For a while it seemed he succeeded with
Amanda, but then she back-slid. She makes the point brilliantly in Saw 3 when she tells him, "They never learn anything".
 
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